We live in strange times...Behringer 369

I was really confused by that, it seems like it links two units together? Kind of weird, I can't seem to find the manual online yet.

I thought Behringer doesn't participate in such things?

Yeah tell them to send me a free one

I can't tell if you're being facetious or serious  . Either way, I have no clue. 

What's your take on this, seawell

At this point sweetwater might be the only option for behringer & their assorted brands... no brick & mortar dealers left. Online only. Or at least that's what both my local shop & the guy at GC said when I did the big PA trade several weeks ago. 

Like most of us I've got more then a few items on the old 'wish list' and at GC... I kinda wanted to trade for a midas 500 frame & some upper end modules. Except they don't carry that stuff... When I asked the GC guy (been there 17 years) about behringer/midas he said they dropped GC and all other brick dealers. Internet sales only. 

Mixed reaction to this one... at $450 it should seem like an instant buy... and its nice to see more inexpensive outboard in general. Seems like over the last decade or so all the lo-mid stuff went away... dbx & rane compressors... and all that's left is used market & stuff that's $1k + per channel. So that's cool. 

But I can't see myself adding this. And I like a good 33609 as much as anyone else... 

Problem is that I'd basically weld it across the 2-mix insert and I just can't imagine this thing sounding real hip there, especially coming off the SSL desk..! 

Pretty much every time I've used a less expensive box there... think ART VLA etc everything sounds pinched vs the $$$ outboard. 

Stereo image collapses inwards. Lose some depth & vast amount of detail. Less bandwith... like the top & bottom octaves are getting shaved. Even if its slightly I can hear it. If your the kinda person who hears minor details & differences in converters??! By comparison? Super obvious. 

I'm sure its built decent enough for the pricepoint, and its probably fine for tracking duty... kick & snare... bass etc... but a whole mix? Call me snobby but I'd rather blast $1500 on a used Heritage or Vintech and be 100% sure of what I'm getting. And that it'll stand up to daily abuse. 

Klones at this point? It is what it is. The audio production world has basically caught up to the guitar world where EVERY company that makes pedals? They have their version of a tube screamer. Just like at this point every company that builds outboard has their version of an 1176 or Pultec. 

At that point I'm buying based on a couple things... 1) build quality - 2) end user support. 

Neither of those are real strong with the behringer crew. So? Pass. At least for me.

I'm sure they'll sell a ton of these things to the lo-rent hobbyist crowd. But like $300 U47 & 251 klones we probably won't see too many of these in the racks of serious professionals. 

My informed guess is that it will beat a plugin unless they absolutely screwed up the circuit.

Hey, I might be a little salty at times . . . but in this case, I was merely quoting a designer I know quite well who makes things and designs others for VK's distribution arm. He often reads these posts, so I'll ask but leave it up to him to expose himself to the wrath of clone enthusiasts.

This. 

I'm the same. I have handmade mics that I've custom ordered for $3k, I have Lewitts's that are made in Chinese factories. I've got RND 535's and Audioscapes, I've got Klark Teknic KT-2A's and whatever else. 

There are things I can spend tons of money on, there are things I can't. And there are times when I just want to take a flyer and see if I get lucky on something that punches above its weight. 

So I ordered one of these from Thoman's as a backorder. If I love it, awesome. If I don't I'll either sell it or relegate it to my live sound rack and use it in dual mono where its only competition would be crappy one knob compressors. This will be the first Behringer product I've ever purchased btw. You finally got me Behringer!

If this sounds as good as the UAD 33609 doing about 2-3 dB of reduction (just kissing it) over my mix bus, I would be pretty happy with it. It's not so much the compression characteristic I like about the 33609 on a master bus, it's more the tone. Rounds off the low end just a little bit while making it feel punchier, and a slightly more open sounding high end (although I've always kind of suspected that it's more of a slight harmonic excitement in the high end than anything). This thing will have to have that same color to it to sell me on it, I'm rarely using a 33609 to push drums or anything hard. I do use it on acoustic guitars quite a bit, and I heard a similar kind of pleasant improvement in the Behringer video on their acoustic guitar sample.

a good man makes certain he's far enough up in her queue. Or so I've heard...