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Post by jampa on Jan 22, 2024 22:08:52 GMT -6
I have some b9 audio short form cardioid condensers, they sound great on acoustic guitars, drum overheads. They appear to be a Schoeps homage
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Post by thehightenor on Jan 23, 2024 2:47:32 GMT -6
I went down this rabbit hole a few years ago and found a few things; -First, you made a good choice. I'm fussy about mics but these thigs just sound "right". I've fought with a lot of SDCs, including Neumanns, that always made acoustics sound like they were missing something vs what I was hearing in the room. After getting my CMC6s 5 or 6 years ago I haven't thought about getting any more SDCs. Just capsules. -Many, myself included, feel the omni caps are the best the sound mic can deliver, if the room allows for it. But, that's not always practical so choose based on your needs. They all sound great. Even the super-cardioids. -The MK21 and 22 are both very popular and a good way to go if you aren't sure about committing to omni or cardioid. -I have some of the switchable heads and love them, though there might be a slight HF lift with these. -When buying used, be aware that many location guys are selling the 'S' versions (I think that's what they are called) which have a built-in high-pass. You don't want that. Thanks Bowie. I've found a local dealer with a CMC6 and MK4 at a few hundred below list (he's a one man operation so can sell a bit cheaper than brick and mortar stores) I think I'm going to go buy it today :-) I like the idea of one of the omni variants but my room is a room in my house not a professional studio space. It's very well treated but I don't think it's a room sound I'd want to capture in any significant way. By the way - still using the NOS tube you supplied me for me Rode NTV - it's made that mic into something quite special even though the capsule was made in China back when Rodes only put together the mics from parts - great transformer in it though and decent caps etc inside too - it's actually a very characterful LDC. Polar opposite to the Schoeps
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Post by thehightenor on Jan 23, 2024 7:34:17 GMT -6
Ta dah ....
I'm the new proud owner of one Schoeps CMC6 MK4 !
Thanks for all the advice guys - very much appreciated.
Now I just need to try it out with my pre's - guitars and percussion.
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Post by bricejchandler on Jan 23, 2024 9:22:53 GMT -6
Yeah! Keep us posted!
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Post by ericn on Jan 23, 2024 9:34:00 GMT -6
Ta dah .... I'm the new proud owner of one Schoeps CMC6 MK4 ! Thanks for all the advice guys - very much appreciated. Now I just need to try it out with my pre's - guitars and percussion. Can’t wait to hear them and what you think.
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Post by lee on Jan 23, 2024 12:46:55 GMT -6
Ta dah .... I'm the new proud owner of one Schoeps CMC6 MK4 ! Thanks for all the advice guys - very much appreciated. Now I just need to try it out with my pre's - guitars and percussion. Get ready to make it a pair.
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Post by thehightenor on Jan 23, 2024 14:04:02 GMT -6
Ta dah .... I'm the new proud owner of one Schoeps CMC6 MK4 ! Thanks for all the advice guys - very much appreciated. Now I just need to try it out with my pre's - guitars and percussion. Get ready to make it a pair. Yikes - the dealer I bought it from had another one in stock (consecutive serial numbers!) .... but it was a push to afford this one! I only record my acoustic and classical guitar in mono for the genre of music I make - if I was tracking real drums and piano it would be a no brainer. (if I want to feature a guitar in a spare part of an arrangement I really like mid&side recordings - I have lot's of options for the mid mic) I'm hoping as they're precision made that if I add another in a few years time it will be close enough to this one to be used in an XY or spaced pair.
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Post by lee on Jan 23, 2024 14:47:17 GMT -6
Get ready to make it a pair. Yikes - the dealer I bought it from had another one in stock (consecutive serial numbers!) .... but it was a push to afford this one! I only record my acoustic and classical guitar in mono for the genre of music I make - if I was tracking real drums and piano it would be a no brainer. (if I want to feature a guitar in a spare part of an arrangement I really like mid&side recordings - I have lot's of options for the mid mic) I'm hoping as they're precision made that if I add another in a few years time it will be close enough to this one to be used in an XY or spaced pair. They seem to buddy up really effortlessly, even at random. Enjoy your beautiful microphone!
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Post by bowie on Jan 23, 2024 14:56:18 GMT -6
Get ready to make it a pair. I'm hoping as they're precision made that if I add another in a few years time it will be close enough to this one to be used in an XY or spaced pair. I believe I recall seeing Schoeps say this is not an issue with the bodies. The condition of the capsules is the thing to look out for. Most who own a Schoeps are going to care for it but keep in mind that these are popular in location recording so some of them have been rode hard and put up wet, so to speak. I've seen some scary looking Schoeps capsules on Reverb/ebay.
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Post by thehightenor on Jan 23, 2024 16:08:54 GMT -6
I'm hoping as they're precision made that if I add another in a few years time it will be close enough to this one to be used in an XY or spaced pair. I believe I recall seeing Schoeps say this is not an issue with the bodies. The condition of the capsules is the thing to look out for. Most who own a Schoeps are going to care for it but keep in mind that these are popular in location recording so some of them have been rode hard and put up wet, so to speak. I've seen some scary looking Schoeps capsules on Reverb/ebay. Bowie - I bought this CMC6 and MK4 new so if I do get another I'll buy new again.
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Post by ericn on Jan 23, 2024 16:20:25 GMT -6
I'm hoping as they're precision made that if I add another in a few years time it will be close enough to this one to be used in an XY or spaced pair. I believe I recall seeing Schoeps say this is not an issue with the bodies. The condition of the capsules is the thing to look out for. Most who own a Schoeps are going to care for it but keep in mind that these are popular in location recording so some of them have been rode hard and put up wet, so to speak. I've seen some scary looking Schoeps capsules on Reverb/ebay. Buy electronics used capsules new, sort of like clothing pants shirts jackets- used fine, underwear nah😎
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Post by ericn on Jan 23, 2024 16:21:15 GMT -6
Get ready to make it a pair. Yikes - the dealer I bought it from had another one in stock (consecutive serial numbers!) .... but it was a push to afford this one! I only record my acoustic and classical guitar in mono for the genre of music I make - if I was tracking real drums and piano it would be a no brainer. (if I want to feature a guitar in a spare part of an arrangement I really like mid&side recordings - I have lot's of options for the mid mic) I'm hoping as they're precision made that if I add another in a few years time it will be close enough to this one to be used in an XY or spaced pair. I predict a collection of capsules first 😎
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2024 18:50:48 GMT -6
Ta dah .... I'm the new proud owner of one Schoeps CMC6 MK4 ! Thanks for all the advice guys - very much appreciated. Now I just need to try it out with my pre's - guitars and percussion. Congrats, that's what I have too.
It seems that I hate my bank account and I don't like your's either .. I guess you can't take it with you, life's short and <insert supportive purchase cliche here>.
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Post by thehightenor on Jan 24, 2024 1:18:13 GMT -6
Ta dah .... I'm the new proud owner of one Schoeps CMC6 MK4 ! Thanks for all the advice guys - very much appreciated. Now I just need to try it out with my pre's - guitars and percussion. Congrats, that's what I have too.
It seems that I hate my bank account and I don't like your's either .. I guess you can't take it with you, life's short and <insert supportive purchase cliche here>. lol …. that is funny and it’s true, until I read your suggestion to the OP in the thread about starting up a set up - I’d never considered a Schoeps. You peaked my interest (I know you have good taste in gear and music) and it’s the one type of mic I have never invested in. A friend gave my a pair of black AKG 451E’s and they’re quite nice but very bright - I think they’re from the era people tracked to tape and that absorbed all that extra top end - or maybe it was a fashion thing back then? Anyway the Schoeps being very linear seems to lend itself to the digital recording medium. I’m going to have a play with it over the next few days. Now please SK, keep your gear suggestions to yourself …. my bank account begs you
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Post by thehightenor on Jan 24, 2024 1:20:33 GMT -6
Yikes - the dealer I bought it from had another one in stock (consecutive serial numbers!) .... but it was a push to afford this one! I only record my acoustic and classical guitar in mono for the genre of music I make - if I was tracking real drums and piano it would be a no brainer. (if I want to feature a guitar in a spare part of an arrangement I really like mid&side recordings - I have lot's of options for the mid mic) I'm hoping as they're precision made that if I add another in a few years time it will be close enough to this one to be used in an XY or spaced pair. I predict a collection of capsules first 😎 Ah ha - I think you’re getting to know me I was eyeing up a MK21 last night thinking that would be a great addition More of the children’s inheritance!!
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