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Post by the other mark williams on Mar 28, 2022 7:59:45 GMT -6
From the new info, it looks like we lost another one to drugs. 😔 It’s heartbreaking reading how many of his peers held him in the highest regard as a person and a musician. RIP. From reading the last interview he did with Rolling Stone, and reading between the lines as a mental health practitioner, my thought is that we may have lost another one to anxiety. The drugs in his system may well have been to self-medicate. He talked in that interview about what terrible stage fright he had, and how heightened it was after not performing for two years during pandemic tour cancelations. Cannabis can show up on a tox screen for quite a long time (like even up to a month), so preliminary reports also don't speak to what he had actually used in the hours immediately prior. The presence of benzodiazepine indicates anxiety (that's the first-line treatment for rapid response). Add that with opiate of some kind, and it's a dangerous cocktail already. Could've been lack of adequate education around the combination of substances.
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Post by bossanova on Mar 28, 2022 8:10:10 GMT -6
From the new info, it looks like we lost another one to drugs. 😔 It’s heartbreaking reading how many of his peers held him in the highest regard as a person and a musician. RIP. From reading the last interview he did with Rolling Stone, and reading between the lines as a mental health practitioner, my thought is that we may have lost another one to anxiety. The drugs in his system may well have been to self-medicate. He talked in that interview about what terrible stage fright he had, and how heightened it was after not performing for two years during pandemic tour cancelations. Cannabis can show up on a tox screen for quite a long time (like even up to a month), so preliminary reports also don't speak to what he had actually used in the hours immediately prior. The presence of benzodiazepine indicates anxiety (that's the first-line treatment for rapid response). Add that with opiate of some kind, and it's a dangerous cocktail already. Could've been lack of adequate education around the combination of substances. I agree. I don't think my original take was all that great or accurate but I left it up for transparency. I lost a close family member to a heroin OD a few years back and it hits hard.
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Post by svart on Mar 28, 2022 8:16:00 GMT -6
From the new info, it looks like we lost another one to drugs. 😔 It’s heartbreaking reading how many of his peers held him in the highest regard as a person and a musician. RIP. From reading the last interview he did with Rolling Stone, and reading between the lines as a mental health practitioner, my thought is that we may have lost another one to anxiety. The drugs in his system may well have been to self-medicate. He talked in that interview about what terrible stage fright he had, and how heightened it was after not performing for two years during pandemic tour cancelations. Cannabis can show up on a tox screen for quite a long time (like even up to a month), so preliminary reports also don't speak to what he had actually used in the hours immediately prior. The presence of benzodiazepine indicates anxiety (that's the first-line treatment for rapid response). Add that with opiate of some kind, and it's a dangerous cocktail already. Could've been lack of adequate education around the combination of substances. They said none of the drugs were in any overdose amounts but he had an enlarged heart. There was a report that he was having shortness of breath and not feeling well when they called the paramedics but by the time they arrived he had passed and couldn't be revived. My guess is a another "random" case of myocarditis.
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Post by bgrotto on Mar 28, 2022 8:47:29 GMT -6
Don't rush to conclusions about what took this man's life...unless you can use it as fodder for your culture war. 🤦🏻♂️
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Post by the other mark williams on Mar 28, 2022 8:55:29 GMT -6
From reading the last interview he did with Rolling Stone, and reading between the lines as a mental health practitioner, my thought is that we may have lost another one to anxiety. The drugs in his system may well have been to self-medicate. He talked in that interview about what terrible stage fright he had, and how heightened it was after not performing for two years during pandemic tour cancelations. Cannabis can show up on a tox screen for quite a long time (like even up to a month), so preliminary reports also don't speak to what he had actually used in the hours immediately prior. The presence of benzodiazepine indicates anxiety (that's the first-line treatment for rapid response). Add that with opiate of some kind, and it's a dangerous cocktail already. Could've been lack of adequate education around the combination of substances. They said none of the drugs were in any overdose amounts but he had an enlarged heart. There was a report that he was having shortness of breath and not feeling well when they called the paramedics but by the time they arrived he had passed and couldn't be revived. My guess is a another "random" case of myocarditis. He talked about his enlarged heart and a recent work up at his cardiologist in that RS interview, so yeah, I don't doubt that was a contributing factor. He spoke in the interview of his cardiologist comparing his heart to an "athlete's heart" (which, yeah, Taylor's physicality when playing was pretty huge), and said his cardiology report was very good. These are complicated things for sure. A confluence of issues most likely.
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Post by the other mark williams on Mar 28, 2022 8:56:53 GMT -6
Don't rush to conclusions about what took this man's life...unless you can use it as fodder for your culture war. 🤦🏻♂️ Very, very true, Benny. I hope my post above didn't contribute to the problem. I deeply apologize if so. I was really just trying to say, "even if 'drugs' were involved, there's almost always more to the story, and that usually gets overlooked."
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Post by svart on Mar 28, 2022 9:22:11 GMT -6
They said none of the drugs were in any overdose amounts but he had an enlarged heart. There was a report that he was having shortness of breath and not feeling well when they called the paramedics but by the time they arrived he had passed and couldn't be revived. My guess is a another "random" case of myocarditis. He talked about his enlarged heart and a recent work up at his cardiologist in that RS interview, so yeah, I don't doubt that was a contributing factor. He spoke in the interview of his cardiologist comparing his heart to an "athlete's heart" (which, yeah, Taylor's physicality when playing was pretty huge), and said his cardiology report was very good. These are complicated things for sure. A confluence of issues most likely. Not saying it's the case here, but a long-time cardiologist almost killed my dad after repeatedly misdiagnosing him and overprescribing multiple medications with severe interactions. He gave him conflicting reports and reasons for the medications. My dad was a cop so he very rigorously follows directions from people in positions of superiority and despite a lot of strange side effects he kept taking the meds. It was only because he couldn't keep that doctor when he started working for another county that saved his life. His new doctor, which he described as a "young kid", saw his list of medications and immediately took him off all 7 of them while telling my dad "I don't know how these didn't kill you". Of course, my dad having the "old people are smart and wise while young people are lazy and dumb" mentality, initially resisted. The doctor insisted he stay off the meds for a month to clear his system and get a new baseline for his heart. My dad was SURE he was going to die without the meds, because that's what doctors and marketing do to people's minds. Anyway, he didn't die. He actually felt the best he had IN YEARS. The new doc put him back on one of the meds but told him to maintain a low carb diet for a while and he wouldn't need anymore meds. The moral here is that just because a doctor says something doesn't make it true, or even harmless. All things should be questioned and considered no matter WHO says it. Doctors kill 300,000-500,000 people a year in the USA alone due to malpractice.
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Post by phantom on Mar 28, 2022 9:26:55 GMT -6
From reading the last interview he did with Rolling Stone, and reading between the lines as a mental health practitioner, my thought is that we may have lost another one to anxiety. The drugs in his system may well have been to self-medicate. He talked in that interview about what terrible stage fright he had, and how heightened it was after not performing for two years during pandemic tour cancelations. Cannabis can show up on a tox screen for quite a long time (like even up to a month), so preliminary reports also don't speak to what he had actually used in the hours immediately prior. The presence of benzodiazepine indicates anxiety (that's the first-line treatment for rapid response). Add that with opiate of some kind, and it's a dangerous cocktail already. Could've been lack of adequate education around the combination of substances. They said none of the drugs were in any overdose amounts but he had an enlarged heart. There was a report that he was having shortness of breath and not feeling well when they called the paramedics but by the time they arrived he had passed and couldn't be revived. My guess is a another "random" case of myocarditis. "Another random case of myocarditis"?? Sorry, but what are you implying?
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Post by the other mark williams on Mar 28, 2022 9:40:14 GMT -6
He talked about his enlarged heart and a recent work up at his cardiologist in that RS interview, so yeah, I don't doubt that was a contributing factor. He spoke in the interview of his cardiologist comparing his heart to an "athlete's heart" (which, yeah, Taylor's physicality when playing was pretty huge), and said his cardiology report was very good. These are complicated things for sure. A confluence of issues most likely. Not saying it's the case here, but a long-time cardiologist almost killed my dad after repeatedly misdiagnosing him and overprescribing multiple medications with severe interactions. He gave him conflicting reports and reasons for the medications. My dad was a cop so he very rigorously follows directions from people in positions of superiority and despite a lot of strange side effects he kept taking the meds. It was only because he couldn't keep that doctor when he started working for another county that saved his life. His new doctor, which he described as a "young kid", saw his list of medications and immediately took him off all 7 of them while telling my dad "I don't know how these didn't kill you". Of course, my dad having the "old people are smart and wise while young people are lazy and dumb" mentality, initially resisted. The doctor insisted he stay off the meds for a month to clear his system and get a new baseline for his heart. My dad was SURE he was going to die without the meds, because that's what doctors and marketing do to people's minds. Anyway, he didn't die. He actually felt the best he had IN YEARS. The new doc put him back on one of the meds but told him to maintain a low carb diet for a while and he wouldn't need anymore meds. The moral here is that just because a doctor says something doesn't make it true, or even harmless. All things should be questioned and considered no matter WHO says it. Doctors kill 300,000-500,000 people a year in the USA alone due to malpractice. That's awful about your father's bad doctor - I'm so glad he eventually got a better one. Sounds like it resulted in improved quality of life. I wasn't trying to imply that doctors are perfect or anything with my post. I'm not sure if that's how you read it, but if so, that wasn't my intention.
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Post by Quint on Mar 28, 2022 9:50:12 GMT -6
From the new info, it looks like we lost another one to drugs. 😔 It’s heartbreaking reading how many of his peers held him in the highest regard as a person and a musician. RIP. From reading the last interview he did with Rolling Stone, and reading between the lines as a mental health practitioner, my thought is that we may have lost another one to anxiety. The drugs in his system may well have been to self-medicate. He talked in that interview about what terrible stage fright he had, and how heightened it was after not performing for two years during pandemic tour cancelations. Cannabis can show up on a tox screen for quite a long time (like even up to a month), so preliminary reports also don't speak to what he had actually used in the hours immediately prior. The presence of benzodiazepine indicates anxiety (that's the first-line treatment for rapid response). Add that with opiate of some kind, and it's a dangerous cocktail already. Could've been lack of adequate education around the combination of substances. I didn't realize you work in the mental health field. Yes. Anxiety is a terrible affliction. I've dealt with it daily for many years, though not to the level that has ever resulted in prescribed medication, though it probably should have. Stress reduction is a huge part of the equation, at least for me. It helps. A little over a year ago, my best friend and musical partner/collaborator killed himself. My fiance and I were the ones who found him in his apartment. The drugs weren't what directly killed him (he took his life in a different way that I won't go into), but they were certainly a contributing factor to his frame of mind when he did the deed. As for how this has affected me, in addition to all of the usual grief, it has been really hard to dip my toes back into music, given the central nature of music to our friendship. Baby steps I guess. Benzos (prescribed) figured heavily into what he had been taking for a few years, and I'm not so sure that they were doing him any good, especially when mixed with everything else he was recreationally taking. Though, it was all self medication when you really get right down to it. Anyway, I totally get what you're saying about anxiety. For those that haven't ever experienced the complete and utter toll that anxiety can take on someone's day to day existence, it may be hard to understand these sort of things. But it is a very real thing that can have tragic consequences on either yourself or your loved ones.
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Post by Guitar on Mar 28, 2022 10:07:38 GMT -6
I've lived with anxiety and I've lost two friends in the past year, too.
In my opinion the only cure for anxiety is a "whole life, whole person" approach. It's not one simple little cause, in my experience. The same goes for other mental "illnesses." They seem to be rooted to a person's entire environment, experience, and core beliefs and actions.
To be very straightforward when I started seriously practicing meditation and buddhist study, this is when my life turned around, almost in a "miraculous" way, I'm totally transformed and have so much gratitude for the quality of my life now, and all the wonderful people in it, the blessings that unfold from one moment to the next.
Medication helps but the story for me is, I've quit most of them and only take a minimal amount of one thing. So I'm on less of the stuff and doing better than I ever have been in decades. I can only attribute this to moral and spiritual/philosophical development and effort. To transform oneself and one's world are essentially the same thing, they really aren't different or separate.
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Post by Quint on Mar 28, 2022 10:34:56 GMT -6
I've lived with anxiety and I've lost two friends in the past year, too. In my opinion the only cure for anxiety is a "whole life, whole person" approach. It's not one simple little cause, in my experience. The same goes for other mental "illnesses." They seem to be rooted to a person's entire environment, experience, and core beliefs and actions. To be very straightforward when I started seriously practicing meditation and buddhist study, this is when my life turned around, almost in a "miraculous" way, I'm totally transformed and have so much gratitude for the quality of my life now, and all the wonderful people in it, the blessings that unfold from one moment to the next. Medication helps but the story for me is, I've quit most of them and only take a minimal amount of one thing. So I'm on less of the stuff and doing better than I ever have been in decades. I can only attribute this to moral and spiritual/philosophical development and effort. To transform oneself and one's world are essentially the same thing, they really aren't different or separate. I've never done the meditation thing but, speaking to your "whole life, whole person" comment, I get what you're saying. It took some heavy reevaluation of my life and the things that were causing anxiety and depression, to figure out a way to manage it and identify the things that were causing it. As I mentioned, stress reduction was a big part of it. All of these factors intertwine and can create a vicious cycle. Out of curiosity, have you ever tried mushrooms? I'm a believer in them. I'm not saying they were central or even really involved at all in my previous efforts to get my anxiety under control. However, when I've taken them on occasion in the past, I have nothing but positive things to say about the anxiety-free way I feel for a few days after, to the point that I've been wanting to try micro dosing. At the very least, I'm encouraged that there finally seems to be legitimate research being conducted on hallucinogens to treat mental disorders. I think it has some real potential.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2022 11:14:16 GMT -6
From reading the last interview he did with Rolling Stone, and reading between the lines as a mental health practitioner, my thought is that we may have lost another one to anxiety. The drugs in his system may well have been to self-medicate. He talked in that interview about what terrible stage fright he had, and how heightened it was after not performing for two years during pandemic tour cancelations. Cannabis can show up on a tox screen for quite a long time (like even up to a month), so preliminary reports also don't speak to what he had actually used in the hours immediately prior. The presence of benzodiazepine indicates anxiety (that's the first-line treatment for rapid response). Add that with opiate of some kind, and it's a dangerous cocktail already. Could've been lack of adequate education around the combination of substances. I didn't realize you work in the mental health field. Yes. Anxiety is a terrible affliction. I've dealt with it daily for many years, though not to the level that has ever resulted in prescribed medication, though it probably should have. Stress reduction is a huge part of the equation, at least for me. It helps. A little over a year ago, my best friend and musical partner/collaborator killed himself. My fiance and I were the ones who found him in his apartment. The drugs weren't what directly killed him (he took his life in a different way that I won't go into), but they were certainly a contributing factor to his frame of mind when he did the deed. As for how this has affected me, in addition to all of the usual grief, it has been really hard to dip my toes back into music, given the central nature of music to our friendship. Baby steps I guess. Benzos (prescribed) figured heavily into what he had been taking for a few years, and I'm not so sure that they were doing him any good, especially when mixed with everything else he was recreationally taking. Though, it was all self medication when you really get right down to it. Anyway, I totally get what you're saying about anxiety. For those that haven't ever experienced the complete and utter toll that anxiety can take on someone's day to day existence, it may be hard to understand these sort of things. But it is a very real thing that can have tragic consequences on either yourself or your loved ones. Benzos will screw you up. I've had multiple relationships end due to girlfriends at the time taking benzos, zolpidem, and other hypnotics. All of them cause bizarre behaviors ime. Mix it with the various amphetamines they often need to kick start their brain, you can observe ton of oddness and psychoses beyond those of typical recreational drug users but the first are legal with a signed slip of paper.
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Post by Guitar on Mar 28, 2022 12:54:03 GMT -6
I've lived with anxiety and I've lost two friends in the past year, too. In my opinion the only cure for anxiety is a "whole life, whole person" approach. It's not one simple little cause, in my experience. The same goes for other mental "illnesses." They seem to be rooted to a person's entire environment, experience, and core beliefs and actions. To be very straightforward when I started seriously practicing meditation and buddhist study, this is when my life turned around, almost in a "miraculous" way, I'm totally transformed and have so much gratitude for the quality of my life now, and all the wonderful people in it, the blessings that unfold from one moment to the next. Medication helps but the story for me is, I've quit most of them and only take a minimal amount of one thing. So I'm on less of the stuff and doing better than I ever have been in decades. I can only attribute this to moral and spiritual/philosophical development and effort. To transform oneself and one's world are essentially the same thing, they really aren't different or separate. I've never done the meditation thing but, speaking to your "whole life, whole person" comment, I get what you're saying. It took some heavy reevaluation of my life and the things that were causing anxiety and depression, to figure out a way to manage it and identify the things that were causing it. As I mentioned, stress reduction was a big part of it. All of these factors intertwine and can create a vicious cycle. Out of curiosity, have you ever tried mushrooms? I'm a believer in them. I'm not saying they were central or even really involved at all in my previous efforts to get my anxiety under control. However, when I've taken them on occasion in the past, I have nothing but positive things to say about the anxiety-free way I feel for a few days after, to the point that I've been wanting to try micro dosing. At the very least, I'm encouraged that there finally seems to be legitimate research being conducted on hallucinogens to treat mental disorders. I think it has some real potential. Stress is something I've been contemplating a lot, lately, too. What is it? What causes it? There's some ancient sutra I read that said the last thing a buddha would have insight into, would be the origin of stress and ignorance. This comes well after physical transformation, special powers, all these fantastical things. I thought that was an interesting sequence. No, I've never tried mushrooms, and I'm not sure I should, but I have a friend who speaks highly of them. I agree with you that the "border" between organic and synthetic medicine, or whatever you call it, is artificial. To echo Dan's post about the junkie aspects of some prescribed medicines, and the positive uses of some "recreational" drugs. I'm sure psychoactives could help a lot of people, when used correctly. Sometimes I think people would be interested that in a simple meditation, a person such as myself can easily have "altered" states, so that's sort of fun and exciting for some people, I like it anyway, no drugs are required. There can also be profound insights, relaxation, letting go of difficulties, solving "problems," all sorts of benefits. And for people who are "turned off" for whatever reason, by some idea of some "religion" or whatever, there are plenty of ways to access the same techniques from a so called agnostic or casual point of view. For example the Sam Harris app or many others, or books like Mindfulness In Plain English. I'd recommend this practice to anyone/everyone who is curious. My own practice has been profoundly helpful.
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Post by Quint on Mar 28, 2022 13:20:52 GMT -6
I've never done the meditation thing but, speaking to your "whole life, whole person" comment, I get what you're saying. It took some heavy reevaluation of my life and the things that were causing anxiety and depression, to figure out a way to manage it and identify the things that were causing it. As I mentioned, stress reduction was a big part of it. All of these factors intertwine and can create a vicious cycle. Out of curiosity, have you ever tried mushrooms? I'm a believer in them. I'm not saying they were central or even really involved at all in my previous efforts to get my anxiety under control. However, when I've taken them on occasion in the past, I have nothing but positive things to say about the anxiety-free way I feel for a few days after, to the point that I've been wanting to try micro dosing. At the very least, I'm encouraged that there finally seems to be legitimate research being conducted on hallucinogens to treat mental disorders. I think it has some real potential. Stress is something I've been contemplating a lot, lately, too. What is it? What causes it? There's some ancient sutra I read that said the last thing a buddha would have insight into, would be the origin of stress and ignorance. This comes well after physical transformation, special powers, all these fantastical things. I thought that was an interesting sequence. No, I've never tried mushrooms, and I'm not sure I should, but I have a friend who speaks highly of them. I agree with you that the "border" between organic and synthetic medicine, or whatever you call it, is artificial. To echo Dan's post about the junkie aspects of some prescribed medicines, and the positive uses of some "recreational" drugs. I'm sure psychoactives could help a lot of people, when used correctly. Sometimes I think people would be interested that in a simple meditation, a person such as myself can easily have "altered" states, so that's sort of fun and exciting for some people, I like it anyway, no drugs are required. There can also be profound insights, relaxation, letting go of difficulties, solving "problems," all sorts of benefits. And for people who are "turned off" for whatever reason, by some idea of some "religion" or whatever, there are plenty of ways to access the same techniques from a so called agnostic or casual point of view. For example the Sam Harris app or many others, or books like Mindfulness In Plain English. I'd recommend this practice to anyone/everyone who is curious. My own practice has been profoundly helpful. People get stressed out from all sorts of different things, so each person has to figure out how to manage that in their own unique way. Mine involved changing jobs and removing even simple little things that could cause anxiety driven shame spirals. It's all so vicious how quickly it can build. I think some people view shrooms as a party drug, and I guess they can be, but it's the new pathways in the brain, and all that comes with it, that is the really great part about them. The other big benefit with shrooms, as compared to pretty much anything else, is that they don't come with the downsides you often find with so many other things like Benzos or any other sort of prescription drug designed to treat mental illness. They're not addictive and don't really harm the body in the ways that so many other prescription drugs seem to do. You mentioned "profound insights, relaxation, letting go of difficulties, solving "problems" that you've experienced with meditation. I've had shrooms provide all of those same benefits. When tripping, you can really be honest with yourself and others in ways that your ego sometimes just won't let you normally do. The temporary removal of the ego is huge, and it opens up your mind to have all sorts of insightful thoughts. You just let go of some things that might otherwise bug you or get in the way. It resets the framework for what is truly important and a lot of your bullshit worries just melt away. Though I've not really tried it yet, the idea with micro dosing would be to experience that same sort of revelatory molding of your mind, in the same beneficial way, but without the trip. I'm sure this will sound like some hippy dippy nonsense to some (I am totally not a hippy by the way) but shrooms are some pretty amazing stuff. I think mycology, in general, is really interesting stuff. Fungi are fascinating. There's actually a pretty cool documentary on Netflix right now called Fantastic Fungi. You might like it.
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Post by seawell on Mar 28, 2022 13:48:13 GMT -6
Tapping into that gift that allows us to be creative can be such a wild ride. Add on top of that whatever Taylor(or any of us) were already dealing with pre-2020, could only have been magnified over the past couple of years. I've tried to keep in mind when being out in public, etc.. we're all going to have to be a lot more kind to one another to heal from this. Lots of grace, lots of forgiving one another. It's tough, a lot of people are really on edge and unfortunately the world didn't exactly give us a post-covid break. Above all, I'm most concerned with how to best parent my children during all this.
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Post by notneeson on Mar 28, 2022 15:08:27 GMT -6
Stress is something I've been contemplating a lot, lately, too. What is it? What causes it? There's some ancient sutra I read that said the last thing a buddha would have insight into, would be the origin of stress and ignorance. This comes well after physical transformation, special powers, all these fantastical things. I thought that was an interesting sequence. No, I've never tried mushrooms, and I'm not sure I should, but I have a friend who speaks highly of them. I agree with you that the "border" between organic and synthetic medicine, or whatever you call it, is artificial. To echo Dan's post about the junkie aspects of some prescribed medicines, and the positive uses of some "recreational" drugs. I'm sure psychoactives could help a lot of people, when used correctly. Sometimes I think people would be interested that in a simple meditation, a person such as myself can easily have "altered" states, so that's sort of fun and exciting for some people, I like it anyway, no drugs are required. There can also be profound insights, relaxation, letting go of difficulties, solving "problems," all sorts of benefits. And for people who are "turned off" for whatever reason, by some idea of some "religion" or whatever, there are plenty of ways to access the same techniques from a so called agnostic or casual point of view. For example the Sam Harris app or many others, or books like Mindfulness In Plain English. I'd recommend this practice to anyone/everyone who is curious. My own practice has been profoundly helpful. People get stressed out from all sorts of different things, so each person has to figure out how to manage that in their own unique way. Mine involved changing jobs and removing even simple little things that could cause anxiety driven shame spirals. It's all so vicious how quickly it can build. I think some people view shrooms as a party drug, and I guess they can be, but it's the new pathways in the brain, and all that comes with it, that is the really great part about them. The other big benefit with shrooms, as compared to pretty much anything else, is that they don't come with the downsides you often find with so many other things like Benzos or any other sort of prescription drug designed to treat mental illness. They're not addictive and don't really harm the body in the ways that so many other prescription drugs seem to do. You mentioned "profound insights, relaxation, letting go of difficulties, solving "problems" that you've experienced with meditation. I've had shrooms provide all of those same benefits. When tripping, you can really be honest with yourself and others in ways that your ego sometimes just won't let you normally do. The temporary removal of the ego is huge, and it opens up your mind to have all sorts of insightful thoughts. You just let go of some things that might otherwise bug you. It resets the framework for what is truly important and a lot of your bullshit worries just melt away. Though I've not really tried it yet, the idea with micro dosing would be to experience that same sort of revelatory molding of your mind, in the same beneficial way, but without the trip. I'm sure this will sound like some hippy dippy nonsense to some (I am totally not a hippy by the way) but shrooms are some pretty amazing stuff. I think mycology, in general, is really interesting stuff. Fungi are fascinating. There's actually a pretty cool documentary on Netflix right now called Fantastic Fungi. You might like it. Michael Pollan’s book How to Change Your Mind is great too, lots of Paul Stamets stuff. I worked on an audio interview with Pollan to promote the book and he’s the most erudite off the cuff speaker I’ve ever heard.
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Post by Ward on Mar 29, 2022 6:18:57 GMT -6
They said none of the drugs were in any overdose amounts but he had an enlarged heart. There was a report that he was having shortness of breath and not feeling well when they called the paramedics but by the time they arrived he had passed and couldn't be revived. My guess is a another "random" case of myocarditis. Both Miocarditis and Periocarditis run in my family, both types of heart enlargement. It's happening now more than ever, as we see many professional athletes drop dead on the field. It's horrifying. It's so awful to see anyone die from this. Rest in peace.
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Post by bgrotto on Mar 29, 2022 8:03:29 GMT -6
They said none of the drugs were in any overdose amounts but he had an enlarged heart. There was a report that he was having shortness of breath and not feeling well when they called the paramedics but by the time they arrived he had passed and couldn't be revived. My guess is a another "random" case of myocarditis. Both Miocarditis and Periocarditis run in my family, both types of heart enlargement. It's happening now more than ever, as we see many professional athletes drop dead on the field. It's horrifying. It's so awful to see anyone die from this. Rest in peace. Many athletes dropping dead on the field?
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Post by phantom on Mar 29, 2022 8:13:25 GMT -6
Both Miocarditis and Periocarditis run in my family, both types of heart enlargement. It's happening now more than ever, as we see many professional athletes drop dead on the field. It's horrifying. It's so awful to see anyone die from this. Rest in peace. Many athletes dropping dead on the field? I think I've heard that before... “Of course, we’ve heard story after story. I mean, all these athletes dropping dead on the field, but we’re supposed to ignore that.” — Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), in an interview on “The Charlie Kirk Show,” Jan. 27 www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/01/how-falsehood-athletes-dying-covid-vaccines-spread/
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Post by Ward on Mar 29, 2022 10:40:14 GMT -6
Both Miocarditis and Periocarditis run in my family, both types of heart enlargement. It's happening now more than ever, as we see many professional athletes drop dead on the field. It's horrifying. It's so awful to see anyone die from this. Rest in peace. Many athletes dropping dead on the field? Probably depends on your definition of 'many'. It was happening in numbers for a while. If that's not something you're aware of, even after you've done a search into it, then I'll take a minute And phantom, please, I thought we were trying to keep culture and politics out of any of these threads? I'm not getting into anything that gets political. It's just a way to make bad friends and tale attention away from the real matters, like the one that tragically killed Taylor: an enlarged heart.
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Post by christopher on Mar 29, 2022 11:22:44 GMT -6
It is heartbreaking what happened for Taylor and especially his family. I can’t imagine how I would have looked up to him if he were my dad. And unfortunately Myocarditis is a side effect of the vaccines, nobody is making that up. It’s just “rare”. But you do have to ask yourself is it really as rare as they say? Symptoms include: NO Symptoms. So How many people actually check if it’s happened to them? During trials did they check every patient for myocarditis during the 6 weeks? One interesting fact is that teenage boys had elevated risk of it. To me that means those who are known to play sports had issues, so they got checked out, and they had it. Apparently it can go away on its own. Basically it screws you up for a while, and well after my vax and boosters my body told me not to raise my heart rate for a few months. I listened to my body, feeling good now. This is the site my wife uses for her patients, and she won’t even entertain a conversation about this stuff with me, but the nurse who gave me the booster was very nice and explained it well: www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/myocarditis/symptoms-causes/syc-20352539I’ve had 2 close people suffer mysterious heart attacks that didn’t register in the lab work as actual heart attacks, both a few months after their vaccines. Both have genetic pre-dispositions, so you can’t say it’s related. It’s still very weird timing imo. EDIT: forgot to say, I’ll take myocarditis over Covid, you can survive it esp if you know you have it. Covid w/o vaccine is simply gambling, besides it can be insanely miserable to the point you won’t care if you live or die. (Apologies to all, just wish people could be made aware of things without emotions)
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Post by phantom on Mar 29, 2022 11:37:06 GMT -6
Many athletes dropping dead on the field? Probably depends on your definition of 'many'. It was happening in numbers for a while. If that's not something you're aware of, even after you've done a search into it, then I'll take a minute And phantom, please, I thought we were trying to keep culture and politics out of any of these threads? I'm not getting into anything that gets political. It's just a way to make bad friends and tale attention away from the real matters, like the one that tragically killed Taylor: an enlarged heart. So, spreading misinformation is keeping politics out of the forum. I see...
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Post by bradd on Mar 29, 2022 11:49:16 GMT -6
The fact is that we do not have a complete picture of what killed him, and as best as I can tell, none of us are doctors. Right now, we're just speculating based on a ton of misinformation. For example, it appears that he had a significantly enlarged heart (some reports say he was aware of it and had sought treatment). Myocarditis and pericarditis are infections that can cause heart inflammation, but that's not the same thing as having an enlarged heart, a condition called cardiomegaly. Neither myocarditis nor pericarditis are hereditary. Let's wait for people who know what they are talking about to finish the analysis.
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Post by seawell on Mar 29, 2022 11:55:31 GMT -6
I came across this clip a while back when I was checking out the Antelope Galaxy 64. It's awesome seeing him so happy in his element. I hope they got far enough along on this material to release it at some point:
I'll make the same plea I did in the Meatloaf thread....these are our brothers, our colleagues, can we please let them just rest peacefully? I know it's still a heated topic and Lord knows I've made my views abundantly clear on it all here in more than one thread but when someone dies it just hits differently. Anyway, hoping we can focus on celebrating his life moving forward and not drag each other back into the same old fight. ✌️
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