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Post by wiz on May 8, 2014 16:33:36 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on May 8, 2014 18:38:03 GMT -6
So - I see it comes with the original 1073 EQ...I wonder if this new one is a mkII version? Has it been improved?
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Post by wiz on May 8, 2014 18:59:58 GMT -6
So - I see it comes with the original 1073 EQ...I wonder if this new one is a mkII version? Has it been improved? Improved would be in the ear of the beholder, but I would think so. It will be a redo, like all their MKII I plumb reckon.... cheers Wiz |
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Post by kcatthedog on May 8, 2014 19:13:24 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on May 8, 2014 19:14:21 GMT -6
with ua 73 Attachment Deletedstandard vocal boost preset very impressed maybe UA's best plug yet ! |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 8, 2014 19:27:17 GMT -6
Haven't listened, but is that a vocal with the regular Apollo Pre and then the 1073 Unison?
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 8, 2014 19:29:29 GMT -6
Running a session tonight so I can't try it till tomorrow but I'm very curious how this one will stack up to the Heritage. My fingers are sure crossed that it stacks up tall. 4 more instances of a 1073 would be nice.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 8, 2014 19:30:51 GMT -6
But man you can sure tell who they're target market is with that cheesy video. Geesh.
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 8, 2014 20:30:39 GMT -6
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Post by matt on May 8, 2014 20:33:07 GMT -6
Sounds pretty buyable to me, dammit. Gonna compare it to the Scheps when I get the courage up.
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 8, 2014 20:38:26 GMT -6
Sounds pretty buyable to me, dammit. Gonna compare it to the Scheps when I get the courage up. forgot to include the "hog" link. |
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Post by kcatthedog on May 8, 2014 21:07:07 GMT -6
Haven't listened, but is that a vocal with the regular Apollo Pre and then the 1073 Unison? It is only regular apollo pre and only using 73 as a plug I have wave scheps, think uA 73 has a lot more vibe, depth but first night demoing do you want to hear the same mp3 with schepps if i can match settings with ua 73 ? Running 10 instances 44.1@24 using 16% of my 12 chips |
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Post by wiz on May 8, 2014 23:28:06 GMT -6
I just saw that usage chart. WOW. Thats a serious sucker upper of DSP>
I own the Scheps 73 EQ by Waves.
I replaced it with the IK version. its great.
also only cost me 104 bucks and I got another plug thrown in for free 8)
they are all good.
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Post by keymod on May 9, 2014 3:44:56 GMT -6
But man you can sure tell who they're target market is with that cheesy video. Geesh. Oh oh, I really thought the video was quite fun, sort of a spoof thing, right? Kudos to Cherney and the others for making caricatures of themselves. |
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Post by matt on May 9, 2014 7:15:56 GMT -6
Haven't listened, but is that a vocal with the regular Apollo Pre and then the 1073 Unison? do you want to hear the same mp3 with schepps if i can match settings with ua 73 ? Please! |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 9, 2014 7:33:36 GMT -6
It would appear that the biggest news from this new version update is not the 1073 plugin, but rather the new PCI driver. I was chatting with Cat 5 and he reports he is stable at 32 samples on large sessions. That is huge. That's the final nail in the coffin for Avid's industry standard HD. I suspect we will see a lot of heavyweights switching to native from here on out because the rest of the interface developers will surely follow.
As usual, it seems Universal Audio is leading the pack again. They are solid for sure.
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Post by category5 on May 9, 2014 10:25:47 GMT -6
I haven't use dthe Unison feature yet but messed with just the EQ plugin last night and was able to dial in really nice sounds on pretty much any track with relative ease (Kick, snare, elec guit, vocal, etc.). The saturation elements really go a long way as the original was quite usable but not nearly as quick and easy to dial in. My impression is that there is some mild compression happening when you start hitting things a little harder. It seemed like I needed less compression after the 1073. In fact, I got a killer kick sound that I felt didn't need anything else at all with a handful of boost at 60, generous cut at 365 and a few dB of boost at 10k for some click. It was really huge and took about 15 seconds to dial in.
The real main event here is the new PCI-E drivers for owners of the thunderbolt card. You'll lose the FW hub if you update, but that's a small price to pay. Stability at low buffers is superb and RT latency is cut nearly in half. The Apollo is a new interface again, and a contender for top-spot in the upper mid-range category in my opinion.
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Post by category5 on May 9, 2014 10:31:30 GMT -6
It would appear that the biggest news from this new version update is not the 1073 plugin, but rather the new PCI driver. I was chatting with Cat 5 and he reports he is stable at 32 samples on large sessions. That is huge. That's the final nail in the coffin for Avid's industry standard HD. I suspect we will see a lot of heavyweights switching to native from here on out because the rest of the interface developers will surely follow. As usual, it seems Universal Audio is leading the pack again. They are solid for sure. Yep. With the round-trip you get now you can use UAD in real time through the console and just about anything else in real time through the DAW. With Slate's new mic thingy and mix rack coming out reducing RT latency was essential for UA. Being this is generation one I think we'll even get better, though with a modern CPU 32 or 64 sample buffers will do what we need just fine. I'm sure the meter droids will complain that they nee 1.5ms real-world round trip but if 4-5ms of latency is causing you to lose your groove then music just ain't for you. lol Output latency is kept insanely low at most buffer settings so VST instruments are essentially "latency-free". I predict single cable cascading for Apollos, including pairing an 8 with a 16 will be coming soon thanks to these new drivers. The TB adapter is now worth the price. |
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Post by tonycamphd on May 9, 2014 10:32:48 GMT -6
nice info cat5, very interested to see what cowboycoalminer finds out with his use today? |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 9, 2014 12:39:04 GMT -6
Played around with the 1073 as an effect here for a few minutes. Very impressed with it. More info soon.
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Post by matt on May 9, 2014 13:02:28 GMT -6
The real main event here is the new PCI-E drivers for owners of the thunderbolt card. You'll lose the FW hub if you update, but that's a small price to pay. Stability at low buffers is superb and RT latency is cut nearly in half. The Apollo is a new interface again, and a contender for top-spot in the upper mid-range category in my opinion. This is great news! I updated to 7.7 last night but was too burnt to test. PT 11 has been crashing on me and I suspect the 7.6 (and prior) Apollo drivers. I'll run a test session tonight and see what's what; I hope I get the same improvement in latency RT. |
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Post by jeromemason on May 9, 2014 16:45:48 GMT -6
I played around with it a little and I'm really impressed. The eq and saturation made me want to pull some compression off a vocal and like the hardware, just having it in w/o doing anything gives a sense of fulness. I've listened to everything UAD has, and this could be the best yet. I'm with the others that have said this, and it really feels like a 1073. It does eat some power though.
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Post by matt on May 9, 2014 22:20:46 GMT -6
UAD's Instance Chart shows 8 mono, 4 stereo instances max on a Quad. This is basically the same load as for Ocean Way. Crazy! UAD Instance Chart |
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Post by jeromemason on May 9, 2014 22:48:18 GMT -6
UAD's Instance Chart shows 8 mono, 4 stereo instances max on a Quad. This is basically the same load as for Ocean Way. Crazy! UAD Instance ChartI know........ Basically since I track most full band stuff in Nashville and only use my studio for vocals and overdubs it's not problem for me and my Apollo Quad, but if you're going to use it for say drums, and you've got a quad, I'd say kick and snare would be my first choices. Nothing like the sound of a snare and kick tracked through a 1073. I'd love to know what a kit sounded like with the Apollo and this as it's unison.... goodness, I mean it's a game changer IMO. I'm gonna track some rhythm overdubs tomorrow with this baby. My custom Tele>Tweed Deluxe>57>1073 Fathead>1073....... maybe I'll put up some clips, just don't make fun of my playin  |
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Post by kcatthedog on May 10, 2014 5:04:50 GMT -6
will try to get to that today already saw some comments on ua forum 1073 thread about dsp usage; its actually the eq that sucks up the dsp, so people are experimenting with using the pre in unison in console and the legacy in normal slot for the eq ( curves are essentially the same), the legacy is included in the 73 demo and purchase so you get the new pre and the two 73 eq's also, don't sweat the dsp usage, UA has for 2 year's offered great combo (HW/Plug) deals on its octo card; right now u get a $750 coupon and a custom upgrade offer, combined this can save you $1300-2,100 in retail plug prices, plus of course you get 8 more chips I have a quad and octo, (12 sharc chips) going to see if i stacked the new 73 in unison in console and the legacy in normal slot for eq how many tracks I can load in console (as a singer songwriter 2 is lots  ), but for others I am curious, if I can get 16 to 24 tracks running in real time. I think the new 73 is UA's best plug and I got a lot of them. and like cat5 and cowboy said the pci-e driver lowered LRT and buffers over tbolt is huge and ua is still giving away the tbolt card with new apollo's and you get the custom upgrade offer ? |
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