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Post by svart on Feb 4, 2021 18:40:02 GMT -6
Well if you know what your tempos in each section are, you can set markers and have them fade timing into each other in Reaper. I don't want them to fade timing into one another, at least not if you mean it in the same way someone would crossfade edits. I want the gradual ramp up in tempo to occur over the entirety of the section. So, say for example that a 30-second long verse starts off at 150 bpm and that the ensuing chorus should be at 165 bpm. Well 10 seconds into that verse, the tempo should be 155 bpm, 20 seconds in it should be at 160 bpm, and upon hitting the chorus it should be fully up to 165 bpm. Granted, I wouldn't normally want quite as extreme a tempo change, but you get the idea. This may just come down to my relatively novice degree of knowledge about Reaper, and everything I'm talking about is easily doable. But I'm not sure. I guess the other question is, even if it's doable, is it doable in a super easy way? Yeah they'll ramp from one to the next, but I don't know of a way to do the automatic detection thing you're looking for. From what I read the logic one doesn't work as great as some people claim.
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Post by wiz on Feb 4, 2021 19:29:15 GMT -6
Well if you know what your tempos in each section are, you can set markers and have them fade timing into each other in Reaper. I don't want them to fade timing into one another, at least not if you mean it in the same way someone would crossfade edits. I want the gradual ramp up in tempo to occur over the entirety of the section. So, say for example that a 30-second long verse starts off at 150 bpm and that the ensuing chorus should be at 165 bpm. Well 10 seconds into that verse, the tempo should be 155 bpm, 20 seconds in it should be at 160 bpm, and upon hitting the chorus it should be fully up to 165 bpm. Granted, I wouldn't normally want quite as extreme a tempo change, but you get the idea. This may just come down to my relatively novice degree of knowledge about Reaper, and everything I'm talking about is easily doable. But I'm not sure. I guess the other question is, even if it's doable, is it doable in a super easy way? In Logic, this is as easy as inserting to nodes on a line....like drawing in automation points. Surely in Reaper its do able. I can create one for you if you give me the details.. will take 5 mins I can export a midi file which will have the tempo info in it and you can import the midi file. Cheers Wiz
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Post by tkaitkai on Feb 6, 2021 12:18:54 GMT -6
Made a quick video on this for anyone who's interested. I have a very highly customized Reaper config so some of the stuff might not be 1:1 with every setup. player.vimeo.com/video/509038640
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Post by Quint on Feb 6, 2021 12:30:29 GMT -6
I don't want them to fade timing into one another, at least not if you mean it in the same way someone would crossfade edits. I want the gradual ramp up in tempo to occur over the entirety of the section. So, say for example that a 30-second long verse starts off at 150 bpm and that the ensuing chorus should be at 165 bpm. Well 10 seconds into that verse, the tempo should be 155 bpm, 20 seconds in it should be at 160 bpm, and upon hitting the chorus it should be fully up to 165 bpm. Granted, I wouldn't normally want quite as extreme a tempo change, but you get the idea. This may just come down to my relatively novice degree of knowledge about Reaper, and everything I'm talking about is easily doable. But I'm not sure. I guess the other question is, even if it's doable, is it doable in a super easy way? In Logic, this is as easy as inserting to nodes on a line....like drawing in automation points. Surely in Reaper its do able. I can create one for you if you give me the details.. will take 5 mins I can export a midi file which will have the tempo info in it and you can import the midi file. Cheers Wiz I appreciate the offer. However, it looks like tkaitkai's video just pretty much showed me how to do all of this.
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Post by Quint on Feb 6, 2021 12:31:51 GMT -6
Made a quick video on this for anyone who's interested. I have a very highly customized Reaper config so some of the stuff might not be 1:1 with every setup. player.vimeo.com/video/509038640Perfect! Thanks man. That looks to be exactly what I was looking for. I would assume this can all be saved as part of a template? That way all you have to do is just adjust the starting and finishing tempo, as needed?
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Post by tkaitkai on Feb 6, 2021 12:54:08 GMT -6
Made a quick video on this for anyone who's interested. I have a very highly customized Reaper config so some of the stuff might not be 1:1 with every setup. player.vimeo.com/video/509038640Perfect! Thanks man. That looks to be exactly what I was looking for. I would assume this can all be saved as part of a template? That way all you have to do is just adjust the starting and finishing tempo, as needed? You can make custom actions & scripts in Reaper that basically string together a series of actions, so there's probably a way to do this, but I'm not 100% sure. The tricky thing is you need to make the gradual tempo change automation before you humanize the grid, because once you convert project markers to tempo markers, Reaper creates a tempo automation point at every quarter note. So if you were to change the first & last tempo markers, it would only change the tempo at those specific beats and the rest would stay the same. You could always select all points in a certain section and automate up/down as necessary. Might not be as gradual that way, but I'm not sure if it would really be noticeable, either. You can also double-click any tempo marker and select 'gradually transition tempo to next marker' to get gradual tempo changes anywhere you'd like.
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Post by craigmorris74 on Feb 6, 2021 14:55:21 GMT -6
Well if you know what your tempos in each section are, you can set markers and have them fade timing into each other in Reaper. I don't want them to fade timing into one another, at least not if you mean it in the same way someone would crossfade edits. I want the gradual ramp up in tempo to occur over the entirety of the section. So, say for example that a 30-second long verse starts off at 150 bpm and that the ensuing chorus should be at 165 bpm. Well 10 seconds into that verse, the tempo should be 155 bpm, 20 seconds in it should be at 160 bpm, and upon hitting the chorus it should be fully up to 165 bpm. Granted, I wouldn't normally want quite as extreme a tempo change, but you get the idea. This may just come down to my relatively novice degree of knowledge about Reaper, and everything I'm talking about is easily doable. But I'm not sure. I guess the other question is, even if it's doable, is it doable in a super easy way? you can do that by creating a master track and automating the tempo there.
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