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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 27, 2020 15:12:19 GMT -6
Ok that’s some good feedback thanks guys! I’m going to head over to YouTube & do some research on some of these plugins. Is there any Acoustica Audio makes that’s better than / equivalent too UAD 1176 mk2 or other mk2 UAD plugs? I haven't heard anything else ITB that touches Acustica Purple (Pultec). Purple comes with like 5 different sampled Pultecs or something, one of them being the Warm EQP-1A. Comparing the Warm Pultec to the other (vintage original) EQP-1A in Purple is ear-opening. Having said that, I use the Black Rooster EQP-1A more than Purple just because the convenience factor. The first time I heard an Acustica API plugin, it wasn't Pink - it was actually a library in Nebula. This was 2010 or so. It sounded so good that I got pissed off. I was hoping my Waves API Collection was going to hold up, but it wasn't even close. I was pissed b/c my computer at that time (a Core 2 Duo MBP) could barely run one band of that Nebula EQ. Over the last 3-4 yrs, the gap has been closing between Acustica and algorithmic plugins, but in quite a few cases, the Acustica plugins are still considerably ahead. I really dig Purple (Pultec), Cream (original TG stuff), Gold (classic Neve), and Pink (API). But they also really excel in the mastering EQ department, like Maselec (Ivory), Scarlet (Sontec), Green (GML), and Ruby (D.W. Fearn). DMG Audio's EQuilibrium can get really close with the curves if you use a large enough FIR window, but IME, the Acustica plugs have that little "something extra" when you turn on the "preamp" to get the analog vibe happening. EQuilibrium doesn't have anything like that in it. I wish it did. I demoed several of the channel strip type plugs from Acustica a couple years back, and ended up buying Cream first. The UI is kind of bizarre and a little off putting, but it just has vibe for days.
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Post by mhbunch on Dec 27, 2020 15:46:07 GMT -6
Ok that’s some good feedback thanks guys! I’m going to head over to YouTube & do some research on some of these plugins. Is there any Acoustica Audio makes that’s better than / equivalent too UAD 1176 mk2 or other mk2 UAD plugs? I haven't heard anything else ITB that touches Acustica Purple (Pultec). Purple comes with like 5 different sampled Pultecs or something, one of them being the Warm EQP-1A. Comparing the Warm Pultec to the other (vintage original) EQP-1A in Purple is ear-opening. Having said that, I use the Black Rooster EQP-1A more than Purple just because the convenience factor. The first time I heard an Acustica API plugin, it wasn't Pink - it was actually a library in Nebula. This was 2010 or so. It sounded so good that I got pissed off. I was hoping my Waves API Collection was going to hold up, but it wasn't even close. I was pissed b/c my computer at that time (a Core 2 Duo MBP) could barely run one band of that Nebula EQ. Over the last 3-4 yrs, the gap has been closing between Acustica and algorithmic plugins, but in quite a few cases, the Acustica plugins are still considerably ahead. I really dig Purple (Pultec), Cream (original TG stuff), Gold (classic Neve), and Pink (API). But they also really excel in the mastering EQ department, like Maselec (Ivory), Scarlet (Sontec), Green (GML), and Ruby (D.W. Fearn). DMG Audio's EQuilibrium can get really close with the curves if you use a large enough FIR window, but IME, the Acustica plugs have that little "something extra" when you turn on the "preamp" to get the analog vibe happening. EQuilibrium doesn't have anything like that in it. I wish it did. I demoed several of the channel strip type plugs from Acustica a couple years back, and ended up buying Cream first. The UI is kind of bizarre and a little off putting, but it just has vibe for days. Have you tried Noiseash Ruletec? It’s the closest plug-in I’ve used. Acoustica plug-ins are amazing but the CPU load is really hard to justify.
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 27, 2020 16:15:38 GMT -6
I haven't heard anything else ITB that touches Acustica Purple (Pultec). Purple comes with like 5 different sampled Pultecs or something, one of them being the Warm EQP-1A. Comparing the Warm Pultec to the other (vintage original) EQP-1A in Purple is ear-opening. Having said that, I use the Black Rooster EQP-1A more than Purple just because the convenience factor. [...] Have you tried Noiseash Ruletec? It’s the closest plug-in I’ve used. Acoustica plug-ins are amazing but the CPU load is really hard to justify. I've never tried it, but I've heard really good things. It's become a bit of a default for Acustica Purple fans when they need something lighter on the CPU. I should probably try it, I'm just tired of buying Pultec plugins every 2 years.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 27, 2020 18:08:28 GMT -6
ya like the original last forever ,plugs should last at least 36 months: right
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Post by ChaseUTB on Dec 28, 2020 1:48:54 GMT -6
Lots of good info thank y’all! CPU power / buffer has been a big topic w/ Acoustica. Would I be able to run the Pink & Purple plugins on tracks or would I need to use them on Auxes & busses? I’m on a 2012 2.6gHz i7 MBP w / 16GB Ram & 850 Samsung SSD. Audio drive is OWC 3TB 720RPM HD dan thanks for the suggestions! I want to invest in good sounding tools that improve my workflow & efficiency. UAD sounds great & so does a free plugin like Kotelnikov from Tokyo Dawn Records/ Labs. I need to buy the GE ASAP cuz the free version smokes the expensive UAD Vertigo VSC-2 ( Softube coding? ) which I like. The VSC-2 even w/ a 90 Hz HPF will choke the low end & collapses/ weakens the in your face vocal like a waves SSL bus comp unless the release is fast or auto ime.
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Post by mhbunch on Dec 28, 2020 2:00:11 GMT -6
Lots of good info thank y’all! CPU power / buffer has been a big topic w/ Acoustica. Would I be able to run the Pink & Purple plugins on tracks or would I need to use them on Auxes & busses? I’m on a 2012 2.6gHz i7 MBP w / 16GB Ram & 850 Samsung SSD. Audio drive is OWC 3TB 720RPM HD dan thanks for the suggestions! I want to invest in good sounding tools that improve my workflow & efficiency. UAD sounds great & so does a free plugin like Kotelnikov from Tokyo Dawn Records/ Labs. I need to buy the GE ASAP cuz the free version smokes the expensive UAD Vertigo VSC-2 ( Softube coding? ) which I like. The VSC-2 even w/ a 90 Hz HPF will choke the low end & collapses/ weakens the in your face vocal like a waves SSL bus comp unless the release is fast or auto ime. I would be surprised if you could have more than 4 instances of purple running in a session
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Post by kilroyrock on Dec 29, 2020 12:39:51 GMT -6
Is there a way to install this without installing yet another installer manager or am I just a big baby
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Post by superwack on Dec 29, 2020 21:32:10 GMT -6
Is there a way to install this without installing yet another installer manager or am I just a big baby I think they have moved to exclusively using their installer manager so, yes, you have to install it. I have a bunch of their Aquas but this one doesn’t function well in ProTools - when I adjust anything on the compressor there is a half second fade-out to no sound then an equally long fade-in. None of the commercial ones I own do this. I also think this is probably an AAX thing as Acustica seems to perform the worst in AAX
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Post by tkaitkai on Dec 30, 2020 10:27:10 GMT -6
Is there a way to install this without installing yet another installer manager or am I just a big baby You do have to use their app. I also hate download managers, but thankfully, the Acustica app is relatively painless. Just login and install the plugin formats you need.
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Post by drbill on Dec 30, 2020 11:04:12 GMT -6
Have you tried Noiseash Ruletec? It’s the closest plug-in I’ve used.. I'm not a huge Pultec fan, but when I pull a plugin up for that application, yeah, that's the one that always gets the nod. Good plug.
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Post by mhbunch on Dec 31, 2020 21:05:22 GMT -6
Ok that’s some good feedback thanks guys! I’m going to head over to YouTube & do some research on some of these plugins. Is there any Acoustica Audio makes that’s better than / equivalent too UAD 1176 mk2 or other mk2 UAD plugs? No way on an 1176. They barely have anti-aliasing already in this strip and cpu use is out of control. A functional sub 1 ms attack rate compressor is not gonna happen. Check out Overloud 1176 V2 (oversampled), Plugin Alliance Purple Mc77 (Fully oversampled with TMNT off), TDR Molot GE (insane mode, alpha mode, saturation on and dynamic), Neold u73b, and Goodhertz Faraday Limiter for faster stuff that behaves better than UAD 1176. ?? My PA Purple Mc77 has no options for oversampling or turning TMT off - can you elaborate?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 0:45:45 GMT -6
No way on an 1176. They barely have anti-aliasing already in this strip and cpu use is out of control. A functional sub 1 ms attack rate compressor is not gonna happen. Check out Overloud 1176 V2 (oversampled), Plugin Alliance Purple Mc77 (Fully oversampled with TMNT off), TDR Molot GE (insane mode, alpha mode, saturation on and dynamic), Neold u73b, and Goodhertz Faraday Limiter for faster stuff that behaves better than UAD 1176. ?? My PA Purple Mc77 has no options for oversampling or turning TMT off - can you elaborate? Digital stereo link turns TMT variance off. I thought it had oversampling buried somewhere? Maybe I misremembered? My Black Friday demo expired. It was too bright so I didn’t buy it but it took the peaks off where everything else 1176ish but the overloud 76 v2 failed
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Post by mhbunch on Jan 1, 2021 1:32:27 GMT -6
?? My PA Purple Mc77 has no options for oversampling or turning TMT off - can you elaborate? Digital stereo link turns TMT variance off. I thought it had oversampling buried somewhere? Maybe I misremembered? My Black Friday demo expired. It was too bright so I didn’t buy it but it took the peaks off where everything else 1176ish but the overloud 76 v2 failed Ah got it you are referring to stereo variance. I thought you meant turning it off completely. There is no option for over sampling anywhere as far as I can tell. I just demoed and bought it yesterday because like you said it’s the closest 1176 I’ve found (and $20 PA coupon). Insanely better than waves and slate. Ya it’s bright but can be corrected w eq if desired. I demoed the Neold and couldn’t justify it next to the MJUC and Molot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 10:02:26 GMT -6
Digital stereo link turns TMT variance off. I thought it had oversampling buried somewhere? Maybe I misremembered? My Black Friday demo expired. It was too bright so I didn’t buy it but it took the peaks off where everything else 1176ish but the overloud 76 v2 failed Ah got it you are referring to stereo variance. I thought you meant turning it off completely. There is no option for over sampling anywhere as far as I can tell. I just demoed and bought it yesterday because like you said it’s the closest 1176 I’ve found (and $20 PA coupon). Insanely better than waves and slate. Ya it’s bright but can be corrected w eq if desired. I demoed the Neold and couldn’t justify it next to the MJUC and Molot. Oversampling might be internal if it has latency. I think it still aliases a bit but so so the PSP Twin-L and Fetpressor and Goodhertz Faraday Limiter but they all work except for Fetpressor’s aliased sidechain and way too soft knee missing peaks. I didn’t buy Purple MC77 because I have Faraday Limiter (more flexible), Molot GE (darker and cooler, more viscous, and better), and Presswerk. I still want Purple and the PSPs eventually but Purple is bright and PSPs are in infinistrip and there are reverbs and delays I need to buy first this weekend.
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Post by the other mark williams on Jan 2, 2021 1:53:27 GMT -6
Have you tried Noiseash Ruletec? It’s the closest plug-in I’ve used. Acoustica plug-ins are amazing but the CPU load is really hard to justify. I've never tried it, but I've heard really good things. It's become a bit of a default for Acustica Purple fans when they need something lighter on the CPU. I should probably try it, I'm just tired of buying Pultec plugins every 2 years. OK, so I'm quoting myself here. I tried the Ruletec. My dear lord. It's a really wonderful plugin EQ. Trashes the Black Rooster in the application I was using it on tonight. So I had to buy it while it's still on mega-sale. I got the "Heritage Pro" version b/c it comes with all 3 Ruletec plugs. Thanks, everybody!
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Post by the other mark williams on Jan 2, 2021 1:55:03 GMT -6
Ah got it you are referring to stereo variance. I thought you meant turning it off completely. There is no option for over sampling anywhere as far as I can tell. I just demoed and bought it yesterday because like you said it’s the closest 1176 I’ve found (and $20 PA coupon). Insanely better than waves and slate. Ya it’s bright but can be corrected w eq if desired. I demoed the Neold and couldn’t justify it next to the MJUC and Molot. [...] I still want Purple and the PSPs eventually but Purple is bright and PSPs are in infinistrip and there are reverbs and delays I need to buy first this weekend. FWIW, the Purple hardware is bright, too. The plugin matches that.
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