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Post by stormymondays on Aug 19, 2020 14:34:44 GMT -6
Were warm audio products ever really that impressive in the first place? I don't see why they shouldn't expand, they obviously have the means to do so. The original Tone Beast was, in my opinion. But that was a LONG time ago!
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Post by Quint on Aug 19, 2020 14:56:13 GMT -6
If I ever needed four more channels of API preamps on the cheap, I would totally go for their four channel unit. Maybe I'd even pop in some red dots or something.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Aug 19, 2020 16:36:41 GMT -6
Were warm audio products ever really that impressive in the first place? I don't see why they shouldn't expand, they obviously have the means to do so. For a minute, the 'bang for the buck' was very strong... But like I was getting at, I feel like making sure the QC was improved would be more important than making tons of different products. Its been years since I used anything of theirs, as Ive found other options for the same or less money that serve my needs. Just not sure what the point is of making sooo much stuff? Maybe better margins on the like $200 pedals and DI boxes?
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Post by jacobamerritt on Aug 19, 2020 16:39:19 GMT -6
If I ever needed four more channels of API preamps on the cheap, I would totally go for their four channel unit. Maybe I'd even pop in some red dots or something. Honestly, for the exact same money you could get Iron Age Audio to make you a 4 channel pre with much more specific sounds, and excellent quality. I'm very happy with my IAA QPP
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 19, 2020 16:40:31 GMT -6
Given that Warm build largely authentically but to a price point, my own experience has been positive with each piece seeming better.
The 4 pre unit was built like a tank and had the custom transformers.
My view was always pragmatic will I use X for tracking and or mixing, always found the answer was yes, but the pultec EQs didn’t stay long: other Warm gear has. Ymmv !?
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Post by Quint on Aug 19, 2020 17:08:10 GMT -6
If I ever needed four more channels of API preamps on the cheap, I would totally go for their four channel unit. Maybe I'd even pop in some red dots or something. Honestly, for the exact same money you could get Iron Age Audio to make you a 4 channel pre with much more specific sounds, and excellent quality. I'm very happy with my IAA QPP I don't necessarily disagree. But I was speaking of an API clone, specifically, which the Iron Age is not.
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Post by notneeson on Aug 19, 2020 17:11:25 GMT -6
If I ever needed four more channels of API preamps on the cheap, I would totally go for their four channel unit. Maybe I'd even pop in some red dots or something. Hmm... I have four red dots in a box somewhere and my studio partner has the Warm.
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 19, 2020 17:20:33 GMT -6
Do it ! or 2 and 2 and compare some stereo files ?
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Post by Ward on Aug 20, 2020 5:12:11 GMT -6
Does anyone wonder if perhaps Warm is getting a bit too diversified in the type of gear they make? I wonder what the end game is for them. They seem to be expanding really quickly. They are up to almost 30 products now. QC seems to be a lingering issue that could be exacerbated by more products to manage, but maybe they've sorted it out and Im out of the loop? What do you mean by 'make'?
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Post by the other mark williams on Aug 20, 2020 12:53:18 GMT -6
Didn't know that they were doing that. I guess it'll still be at the same location in Liberty Hill? One of these days, when things get back to normal, I'd be interested in seeing it. It's right outside of Austin. Which got me to thinking about what else is located in the Austin area. Warm FMR RND Wunder I feel like I'm forgetting others. You're forgetting about the "only one that matters" which is Weird Audio of course. Maybe Tommy can come in this thread and "set us all straight" about anything and everything. Maybe he's benching a few more pounds than before. that’s a perfectly cromulent point.
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Post by ericn on Aug 20, 2020 14:35:02 GMT -6
Does anyone wonder if perhaps Warm is getting a bit too diversified in the type of gear they make? I wonder what the end game is for them. They seem to be expanding really quickly. They are up to almost 30 products now. QC seems to be a lingering issue that could be exacerbated by more products to manage, but maybe they've sorted it out and Im out of the loop? What do you mean by 'make'? That could be said for about 80% of the products discussed around here, but the proper phrase is “sell”!
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Post by Ward on Aug 21, 2020 7:01:27 GMT -6
What do you mean by 'make'? That could be said for about 80% of the products discussed around here, but the proper phrase is “sell”! My point exactly. Heiserman audioscape markfouxman @stager cdkelly and matt@IAA (hope I got all of that right) are doing it right.
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 21, 2020 7:48:08 GMT -6
But kind of an aside, as we are more interested in using the gear than their modes of delivery ? Anyway, should have the fuzz and phase here next week: looking forward to expanding my pedal board and guitar textures.
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Post by ericn on Aug 21, 2020 8:02:39 GMT -6
That could be said for about 80% of the products discussed around here, but the proper phrase is “sell”! My point exactly. Heiserman audioscape #markfouxman @stager cdkelly and @mattiaa (hope I got all of that right) are doing it right. Great examples, as well as a list of people I am proud to associate with. They all build great products and are honest about their supply chain. They also deliver when it comes to bang for the buck. Now you would think this former gear pimp would have a problem with the fact that most of their products are sold direct, but that’s how they manage to keep the costs inline. Let’s all hope and support these guys so they survive in this Covid crap. Now I have nothing against the Chinese made low cost, mass distribution clones. You just have to realize your giving something up for the savings. Example, Iron Ages 4 ch discreet opamp pre, I can’t go down to GC or the local MI shop and grab one off the shelf. I can go grab the Warm with all the name brand parts, but the pots and switches on the Warm are going to fail long before the Iron Age. An informed user who understands the trade off can easily make this choice, but just like when the Behringers first hit except to see a bunch of used Warm stuff on the used market with bad switches and pots.
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Post by ericn on Aug 21, 2020 8:02:49 GMT -6
That could be said for about 80% of the products discussed around here, but the proper phrase is “sell”! My point exactly. Heiserman audioscape #markfouxman @stager cdkelly and @mattiaa (hope I got all of that right) are doing it right. Great examples, as well as a list of people I am proud to associate with. They all build great products and are honest about their supply chain. They also deliver when it comes to bang for the buck. Now you would think this former gear pimp would have a problem with the fact that moste of their products are sold direct, but that’s how they manage to keep the costs inline. Let’s all hope and support these guys so they survive in this Covid crap. Now I have nothing against the Chinese made low cost, mass distribution clones. You just have to realize your giving something up for the savings. Example, Iron Ages 4 ch discreet opamp pre, I can’t go down to GC or the local MI shop and grab one off the shelf. I can go grab the Warm with all the name brand parts, but the pots and switches on the Warm are going to fail long before the Iron Age. An informed user who understands the trade off can easily make this choice, but just like when the Behringers first hit except to see a bunch of used Warm stuff on the used market with bad switches and pots.
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