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Post by drumsound on Apr 21, 2020 23:18:04 GMT -6
Preamps are cool... but can you imagine how many PYE compressors they could sell?!?! (Nudge nudge) ((Seriously please make some PYE comps anybody I’m begging)) Preamps are cool... but can you imagine how many PYE compressors they could sell?!?! (Nudge nudge) ((Seriously please make some PYE comps anybody I’m begging)) Of all the things that need a clone market..its a PYE. Wonder why it's never happened. If a 670 can happen, surely a damn PYE could. Yes PYE!
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Post by swafford on Apr 22, 2020 0:45:47 GMT -6
I love those adverts without any usable information about the product. I always thought communication is the whole point about a marketing strategy.... Well it's not, but I agree with you. I find this approach to product releases annoying.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Apr 22, 2020 5:47:49 GMT -6
Preamps are cool... but can you imagine how many PYE compressors they could sell?!?! (Nudge nudge) ((Seriously please make some PYE comps anybody I’m begging)) Of all the things that need a clone market..its a PYE. Wonder why it's never happened. If a 670 can happen, surely a damn PYE could. I have a feeling that just not enough people have used them or heard stories about them to make it a legendary piece. The plugins don’t even come close imo - it’s a shame to have the PYE name on them. I think there was a company making some sort of recreation called POM but I’ve never seen one in the wild
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Post by Ward on Apr 22, 2020 6:00:59 GMT -6
I love those adverts without any usable information about the product. I always thought communication is the whole point about a marketing strategy.... We're not all in the dark. ;-) And I can promise you this . . . everything that has come out of audioscape has surpassed my expectations and raised the bar for the industry. Put some faith in Chris and the team. Many of us have and have never once been disappointed. Now Chris . . . I need my other two damned Midrange EQs!!
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Post by Ward on Apr 22, 2020 6:02:45 GMT -6
Of all the things that need a clone market..its a PYE. Wonder why it's never happened. If a 670 can happen, surely a damn PYE could. I have a feeling that just not enough people have used them or heard stories about them to make it a legendary piece. The plugins don’t even come close imo - it’s a shame to have the PYE name on them. I think there was a company making some sort of recreation called POM but I’ve never seen one in the wild Well, if we all got what we wanted, someone(s) like Chris and Charlie would also have a V72 V76 and Helios Type 69 available at audioscape quality and pricing as well!!
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Post by EmRR on Apr 22, 2020 7:37:12 GMT -6
Preamps are cool... but can you imagine how many PYE compressors they could sell?!?! Of all the things that need a clone market..its a PYE. Wonder why it's never happened. If a 670 can happen, surely a damn PYE could. It did, some were built, kit guy vanished after awhile. No one picked it up that I recall.
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Post by matt@IAA on Apr 22, 2020 7:48:10 GMT -6
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Post by matt@IAA on Apr 22, 2020 7:48:50 GMT -6
The problem with recreating the PYE is that the oscillator needs a transformer, and it gets complicated from there.
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Post by EmRR on Apr 22, 2020 8:27:46 GMT -6
The problem with recreating the PYE is that the oscillator needs a transformer, and it gets complicated from there. You're making me think it's an early PWM type, that sounds familiar.
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Post by sean on Apr 22, 2020 8:55:14 GMT -6
I believe POM still makes a PYE compressor.
The difficult part would be tracking down a perfectly working unit to use as the basis of your "clone"
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Post by matt@IAA on Apr 22, 2020 9:25:27 GMT -6
Yes, it is a PWM. The modern approach would be to use an IC oscillator like a 555. Or a more complex IC. And at that point, you go digital and do compression there.
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Post by tasteliketape on Apr 22, 2020 9:34:23 GMT -6
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Post by sean on Apr 22, 2020 9:34:34 GMT -6
Yes, it is a PWM. The modern approach would be to use an IC oscillator like a 555. Or a more complex IC. And at that point, you go digital and do compression there. Is that how the Great River unit works? www.greweb.com/compressor.html
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Post by jeremygillespie on Apr 22, 2020 10:22:16 GMT -6
That’s the best sounding one to me. The ones that are mounted vertically are slightly different I think. I assisted for Jason Corsaro for years and we were buddies after I started doing my own projects. That type of PYE comp was the first piece of gear he ever purchased, he kept it up until he passed about 2 years ago. I REALLY wanted to buy his but I just couldn’t justify scrounging that much money up for a compressor. He actually had tons of gear I’d would have loved to buy. Not sure where it all wound up... I think his sister is still trying to sell a lot of it.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 22, 2020 11:20:09 GMT -6
I have a feeling that just not enough people have used them or heard stories about them to make it a legendary piece. The plugins don’t even come close imo - it’s a shame to have the PYE name on them. I think there was a company making some sort of recreation called POM but I’ve never seen one in the wild Well, if we all got what we wanted, someone(s) like Chris and Charlie would also have a V72 V76 and Helios Type 69 available at audioscape quality and pricing as well!! Weight Tank WT72.
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Post by plinker on Apr 22, 2020 11:55:27 GMT -6
I'm thinking two channels for $1100 -- Not one for $1000.
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Post by EmRR on Apr 22, 2020 13:28:28 GMT -6
They were only $250 25 years ago.......
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Post by Ward on Apr 22, 2020 13:28:56 GMT -6
I'm thinking two channels for $1100 -- Not one for $1000. Ok, so can I mark you down for agreeing with my comment about " audioscape quality at @audioscapr prices"?
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Post by Guitar on Apr 22, 2020 13:57:29 GMT -6
Preamps are cool... but can you imagine how many PYE compressors they could sell?!?! (Nudge nudge) ((Seriously please make some PYE comps anybody I’m begging)) Of all the things that need a clone market..its a PYE. Wonder why it's never happened. If a 670 can happen, surely a damn PYE could. I want to say it's a piece of cake, but it's a piece of PYE.
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Post by Guitar on Apr 22, 2020 14:02:25 GMT -6
Yes, it is a PWM. The modern approach would be to use an IC oscillator like a 555. Or a more complex IC. And at that point, you go digital and do compression there. I was just researching the MC34063 DC to DC converter, and the EEV blog guy said it's almost a jelly bean. Someone else commented that the 555 is one of the most common IC's out there. Just thought that was funny, I've been having a few beers and trying to learn, possibly design a small battery powered stereo preamp. But then I saw some of the Sound Devices mixers/preamps and they put my ideas to shame. Brilliant designs. I still might do it though just to learn.
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Post by audioscape on Apr 22, 2020 14:32:46 GMT -6
Hahahaha you guys are too much! LOVE IT! ;-)
A PYE would indeed be very cool....years ago AC Sound attempted it and sold DIY PCB's as well as a complete unit - from what I recall, it was the NIGHTMARE build/debugging process of his PYE COMP that really made the guy lose it and basically fall of from there. Shame, great sounding unit and his 160VU clones are great!
The Weight Tank WT72 is indeed a GREAT option...! We want to take one of the preamp designs currently in develop up a level as far as the KING of tube mic preamps go.
And just to be clear - the reason for being vague actually has a purpose but I can see how it could be misconstrued by others looking in from the outside.
The reason we haven't "officially" announced what the new pre's are is simple.... while one is VERY close to being done, it still needs more prototyping and testing - the other is still in development.
Sooooooo just in CASE, in the RARE event that something CATASTROPHIC happens with the product - we don't want to disappoint anyone and spread rumors of new products that will NEVER see the light of day. That would be WAY more "uncool" than being vague in our marketing strategy, at least, in our humble opinions. ;-)
However - once we have a handful of working units in hand and have put them through their paces - you can bet we will let everyone know what the first preamp we release is going to be! It is 500-Series, that much I think we've alluded to elsewhere.
Either way, we've got nothing but love for ALL OF YOU and everyone is entitled to their opinion. We just want good vibes, great gear and to continue bringing you all products that are worthy of the "AudioScape" name ;-) <3
Again, y'all ROCK!!!!
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Post by chessparov on Apr 22, 2020 15:14:51 GMT -6
All hail the new Pro Tools/Logic signature Compressor... The "Apple Pye" Oh wait that's just the Plug. We all prefer the Abbey Road tribute hardware! Chris
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2020 15:58:54 GMT -6
Hopefully these are rack-mount and not 500 series. I love headroom on everything. Insane amounts of headroom. A lot of the non API 500 series pres lack headroom.
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Post by plinker on Apr 22, 2020 16:56:32 GMT -6
I'm thinking two channels for $1100 -- Not one for $1000. Ok, so can I mark you down for agreeing with my comment about " audioscape quality at @audioscapr prices"? You're damn right you can!
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Post by Ward on Apr 22, 2020 17:29:53 GMT -6
Hopefully these are rack-mount and not 500 series. I love headroom on everything. Insane amounts of headroom. A lot of the non API 500 series pres lack headroom. Similarly, the first time I heard a non-API 500 module, my reaction was "it doesn't sound right". Nothing has really changed tht since.
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