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Post by nick8801 on Feb 6, 2020 17:41:27 GMT -6
So I would like to buy a pair of hardware Pultec style eq’s sometime in the near future and I’d like some input on a few that are on my radar. I’ve decided to skip over the Warm/Klark Teknik for something a little more high end but I’m kind of torn as to what to get. I do like the AML’s a lot. Even if I bought them assembled they aren’t much more expensive than the Warms. There’s also the Audio Scapes as well which fall under a similar price point. With either of those I’d have to buy another rack, and I do like the idea of nice big eq’s to work with, both from a functional standpoint and a visual one. For the same price as those I can also get a used A-Designs stereo solid state Pultec. I don’t really hear much about them these days, but I remember them being a few people’s favorites back in the day. The pros of that one are it would fit into my desk which has 2 spaces left and I’d never have to worry about tubes. Am I missing anything in this price range? I think there is a Tegler too, but that gets mixed reviews. Thanks in advance for any thoughts!
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 6, 2020 17:55:56 GMT -6
I have the klarks and they do an okay job but The Stam Audio EQP1A is brilliant ... I have a pair and they are incredible for the price point. I'm not sure if they are making anymore but I'd keep an eye out for them on reverb and/or back in stock ... the mid band is a really nice addition too
I'm sure there's a ton of good higher end options ready in stock , but the stams price to quality ratio is crazy haha.... that wait sucks tho, 18 months for me :/
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Post by nick8801 on Feb 6, 2020 18:37:39 GMT -6
I have the klarks and they do an okay job but The Stam Audio EQP1A is brilliant ... I have a pair and they are incredible for the price point. I'm not sure if they are making anymore but I'd keep an eye out for them on reverb and/or back in stock ... the mid band is a really nice addition too I'm sure there's a ton of good higher end options ready in stock , but the stams price to quality ratio is crazy haha.... that wait sucks tho, 18 months for me :/ I just can’t do the Stam thing. I’m sure they sound awesome, but waiting like a year is just crazy to me.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 6, 2020 19:32:28 GMT -6
I’ve had two margaritas and I read this as “let’s talk politics...”
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Post by matt@IAA on Feb 6, 2020 19:43:56 GMT -6
Build your own. Build your own. Build your own.
Feeeeeel the magic of DIY
/pusher
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Post by teejay on Feb 6, 2020 19:48:18 GMT -6
I can't speak to Pultecs specifically, but can tell you that I'm extremely impressed with the quality and sound of my AudioScape Opto and BUSS compressors. Wonderful value and attention to detail/vintage accuracy for the price.
Now if John starts looking for his lost shaker of salt...
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Post by audioscape on Feb 6, 2020 20:26:56 GMT -6
I can't speak to Pultecs specifically, but can tell you that I'm extremely impressed with the quality and sound of my AudioScape Opto and BUSS compressors. Wonderful value and attention to detail/vintage accuracy for the price. Now if John starts looking for his lost shaker of salt... ::waves:: Thanks so much @toddj !!!! If you're looking at getting that Pultec "magic", in the original 3RU format, NOS Tubes, Custom spec'd and handwound Input and Interstage transformers (the interstage used in this circuit, as we found out, is VERY important), the AMAZING Peerless S217 Output transformer recreation from Carnhill and of course a handwound inductor, look no further than our EQP-A! They've been getting rave reviews from our customers and we kept getting extremely high-praise from all of the folks who visited us at Winter NAMM and took our EQP-A for a spin... which, considering we spent a couple years on getting the circuit as sonically period-correct as possible - means the world to us. If buying in pairs, just as we do with all of our products, we will hand pick a pair for you for 2BUSS duties, etc. etc... no brainer. ;-) Small batch, USA-Made right here in Florida as you know - if it's in stock and you purchase from us, your unit ships the very next business day. Anyone on here who owns our EQP-A or a pair, please feel free to chime in with your thoughts
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Post by nick8801 on Feb 6, 2020 20:33:47 GMT -6
I can't speak to Pultecs specifically, but can tell you that I'm extremely impressed with the quality and sound of my AudioScape Opto and BUSS compressors. Wonderful value and attention to detail/vintage accuracy for the price. Now if John starts looking for his lost shaker of salt... ::waves:: Thanks so much @toddj !!!! If you're looking at getting that Pultec "magic", in the original 3RU format, NOS Tubes, Custom spec'd and handwound Input and Interstage transformers (the interstage used in this circuit, as we found out, is VERY important), the AMAZING Peerless S217 Output transformer recreation from Carnhill and of course a handwound inductor, look no further than our EQP-A! They've been getting rave reviews from our customers and we kept getting extremely high-praise from all of the folks who visited us at Winter NAMM and took our EQP-A for a spin... which, considering we spent a couple years on getting the circuit as sonically period-correct as possible - means the world to us. If buying in pairs, just as we do with all of our products, we will hand pick a pair for you for 2BUSS duties, etc. etc... no brainer. ;-) Small batch, USA-Made right here in Florida as you know - if it's in stock and you purchase from us, your unit ships the very next business day. Anyone on here who owns our EQP-A or a pair, please feel free to chime in with your thoughts You guys are definitely at the top of my list!
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Post by nick8801 on Feb 6, 2020 20:36:41 GMT -6
I’ve had two margaritas and I read this as “let’s talk politics...” Very happy I can avoid the politics here.
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Post by johneppstein on Feb 6, 2020 20:43:00 GMT -6
I’ve had two margaritas and I read this as “let’s talk politics...” Vote for Johnkenn!
Those must have been SOME margaritas.......
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 6, 2020 20:51:56 GMT -6
I’ve been looking at the Tegeler EQP1 myself, mostly because I want to save on space needed. I’m not sure if they are partially solid state to get two channels into a 2U piece of gear. I’ve also not been able to find any comparisons between them and other comparable units. www.tegeler-audio-manufaktur.de/Classic_equalizer_eqp_1_passive_tube_equalizerI’ve also been looking at the Retro Instruments 2A3, which also saves on space, but sounds amazing on all the samples I’ve heard. Of course the price point is much higher than the Tegeler or Audio-Scape, which looks great, but would require 6U for a pair. Sweetwater recently did a nice Pultec shootout which included the Retro, Warm KT, Manley, and others as well as a bunch of plugins too. www.sweetwater.com/insync/pultec-shootout-with-sound-samples/
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Post by nick8801 on Feb 6, 2020 20:54:25 GMT -6
I’ve been looking at the Tegeler EQP1 myself, mostly because I want to save on space needed. I’m not sure if they are partially solid state to get two channels into a 2U piece of gear. I’ve also not been able to find any comparisons between them and other comparable units. www.tegeler-audio-manufaktur.de/Classic_equalizer_eqp_1_passive_tube_equalizerI’ve also been looking at the Retro Instruments 2A3, which also saves on space, but sounds amazing on all the samples I’ve heard. Of course the price point is much higher than the Audio-Scape or Tegeler. Sweetwater recently did a nice Pultec shootout which included the Retro, Warm KT, Manley, and others as well as a bunch of plugins too. www.sweetwater.com/insync/pultec-shootout-with-sound-samples/Man I love the retro! Definitely a little outta my league, but honestly in those Sweetwater shootouts it wasn’t my favorite. The original had that beautiful high end that I can’t seem to find anywhere else. If the Audioscape comes even close to that I’ll be very happy.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 6, 2020 20:57:27 GMT -6
Tegeler offers demos. I’ll reach out to them when I have enough cash to keep it if I love it.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 6, 2020 21:00:32 GMT -6
I have the klarks and they do an okay job but The Stam Audio EQP1A is brilliant ... I have a pair and they are incredible for the price point. I'm not sure if they are making anymore but I'd keep an eye out for them on reverb and/or back in stock ... the mid band is a really nice addition too I'm sure there's a ton of good higher end options ready in stock , but the stams price to quality ratio is crazy haha.... that wait sucks tho, 18 months for me :/ Are you the guy that just listed one for sale on reverb yesterday? 😂😂
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Post by jamiesego on Feb 6, 2020 21:25:09 GMT -6
I was saving for a Retro 2a3 but I would really love to try the Audioscape units. I liked the Warm EQ but I sold it and picked up a Tube Tech PE1b with the intention of trying it for a while and flipping it. So far I like it a lot but I still want stereo capabilities.
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Post by nick8801 on Feb 6, 2020 22:09:38 GMT -6
I find myself using the UAD Pultecs all the time. Mixes, busses, vocals, bass, guitars....you name it. I’ve been mostly in the box, but I find it there is a plug-in that I use that much and love what it does, then it’s time to add the hardware to the studio. Sometimes hardware and plugins are really close, but with Pultecs I can hear a big difference. The low end is tighter and clearer and the high end is very 3d. Even the cheaper Klarks are cool, but if I’m only gonna have a few pieces of choice hardware then I’d prefer to have something a little more aesthetically pleasing.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 6, 2020 23:16:05 GMT -6
I find myself using the UAD Pultecs all the time. Mixes, busses, vocals, bass, guitars....you name it. I’ve been mostly in the box, but I find it there is a plug-in that I use that much and love what it does, then it’s time to add the hardware to the studio. Sometimes hardware and plugins are really close, but with Pultecs I can hear a big difference. The low end is tighter and clearer and the high end is very 3d. Even the cheaper Klarks are cool, but if I’m only gonna have a few pieces of choice hardware then I’d prefer to have something a little more aesthetically pleasing. I’m exactly where you are.
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 7, 2020 0:36:40 GMT -6
I don't have any of these mentioned full sized units. But I'll put in a good word for the DIYRE EQP5s! They aren't tube but still very lovely.
Another 500 Series option that looks cool is the IGS Rubberbands Mastering edition one.
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Post by phantom on Feb 7, 2020 4:39:43 GMT -6
AudioScape for sure.
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Post by swafford on Feb 7, 2020 6:05:48 GMT -6
Love my AudioScape, I'd love another.
Sweetwater has drum files run through various Pultec clones. I downloaded that and listened a good long time in my studio before deciding that it was worth getting rid of my Warm units as the more expensive units were much more dimensional in the lows and the highs were much clearer. When I got the AuduioScape, I ran the dry file through it and post it at the end of the long GS shootout thread.
The other one I'd take a good look at because the designer is well regarded and the aesthetic is just so inviting is the stereo GOLY.
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Post by drsax on Feb 7, 2020 8:23:01 GMT -6
Love my pair of AudioScape EQP-A’s. Excellent!
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Post by MorEQsThanAnswers on Feb 7, 2020 10:19:49 GMT -6
Hope this isn’t too off topic but how does a solid state Pultec compare to a Maag EQ4? Seems like you can create similar shapes and both have extremely little phase shift. Also, how do you feel about the 500 series solid state Pultecs?
Never gotten the chance to get my hands dirty with these :/
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Post by nick8801 on Feb 7, 2020 10:27:04 GMT -6
Hope this isn’t too off topic but how does a solid state Pultec compare to a Maag EQ4? Also, how do you feel about the 500 series solid state Pultecs? Never gotten the chance to get my hands dirty with these :/ The Maag is a totally different design. I never had a chance to compare, but they seem to be two different beasts. I did try the Pulse solid states at AES a few years back and I thought they were really fantastic. Unfortunately I don’t have a 500 series setup anymore. They are quite expensive though!
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Post by MorEQsThanAnswers on Feb 7, 2020 12:24:30 GMT -6
Hope this isn’t too off topic but how does a solid state Pultec compare to a Maag EQ4? Also, how do you feel about the 500 series solid state Pultecs? Never gotten the chance to get my hands dirty with these :/ The Maag is a totally different design. I never had a chance to compare, but they seem to be two different beasts. I agree the design is completely different of course, but you often see them used for similar purposes. I often see Maags on mix-bus duty, boosting top end in vocals, getting monster boosts way down low, etc. For these reasons I’m curious, not as much to do with the circuitry (or lack thereof)
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 7, 2020 13:13:00 GMT -6
I have the klarks and they do an okay job but The Stam Audio EQP1A is brilliant ... I have a pair and they are incredible for the price point. I'm not sure if they are making anymore but I'd keep an eye out for them on reverb and/or back in stock ... the mid band is a really nice addition too I'm sure there's a ton of good higher end options ready in stock , but the stams price to quality ratio is crazy haha.... that wait sucks tho, 18 months for me :/ Are you the guy that just listed one for sale on reverb yesterday? 😂😂 Umm nope, def not me lol. I have a pair of EQP1As upgraded, and Stamchild and two 1073EQs ... never letting my stam stuff go!
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