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Post by indiehouse on Jan 7, 2020 18:27:57 GMT -6
Does anyone use a reactive load box for recording amps? I’m thinking about picking up a Suhr Reactive Load to run into the Strymon Iridium cab side (amp side disabled), and be able to load up and audition different cab IR’s and utilize the Strymons excellent room verb. Seems like a viable option to record my Swart AST and Fender Vibro Champ.
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Post by wiz on Jan 7, 2020 18:36:12 GMT -6
I have been researching same topic, the iron man to attenuator seems to be a good choice for me three different amplifier impedances 4 8 16 ohms.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 7, 2020 19:29:46 GMT -6
I have been researching same topic, the iron man to attenuator seems to be a good choice for me three different amplifier impedances 4 8 16 ohms. Yeah, I have been considering that one as well. Really versatile and supposedly has pretty transparent attenuation. 800 bucks, though. Hard to find used. Suhr comes in less. So does the Two Notes Captor. Neither does attenuation, though. And also they are both fixed impedance. |
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Post by MorEQsThanAnswers on Jan 8, 2020 10:16:33 GMT -6
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 8, 2020 10:36:19 GMT -6
The Suhr Reactive Load IR looks interesting. Has 16 selectable cab IR’s built in, and you can load your own. More expensive than the Iridium and would overlap in functionality, so it’s one or the other for me on that. Wouldn’t quite have the amp versatility as with the Iridium, considering I’ve only got a couple tube amps. If I go Iridium with the Suhr Reactive Load (without cab IR’s), I would keep the ability to use my amps with cab IR’s as well as the additional amps of the Iridium, for a couple hundred more than the cost of the Suhr RL-IR box.
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Post by levon on Jan 8, 2020 10:37:12 GMT -6
I'm using the Fryette Power Station 2 right now, which is amazingly flexible and sounds great. Alternatively, the SPL attenuators (Reducer and Cabulator) are also great, I have them both. However, I've always used loadboxes with real cabs. Clearsonic shields really help to reduce volume in the room.
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Post by Ned Ward on Jan 8, 2020 10:56:43 GMT -6
I have been researching same topic, the iron man to attenuator seems to be a good choice for me three different amplifier impedances 4 8 16 ohms. Yeah, I have been considering that one as well. Really versatile and supposedly has pretty transparent attenuation. 800 bucks, though. Hard to find used. Suhr comes in less. So does the Two Notes Captor. Neither does attenuation, though. And also they are both fixed impedance. To be clear, if you're using either the Suhr or Two Notes, you don't need attenuation - they're designed to replace your speaker for silent recording. I'm looking at both for exactly that, and like that there's nothing else in these - purpose built. |
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Post by matt on Jan 8, 2020 11:08:57 GMT -6
I own a Two Notes Torpedo Studio and a Suhr Reactive Load non-IR. They are both good, with the Studio being 4-5 times the cost of the Suhr due to it's extensive IR capability. I don't think you can go wrong with any recent products from Two Notes, Suhr, Fryette, SPL, etc. Properly loading an amp down to line level seems to be pretty well-understood tech these days, and cabinet IRs are getting pretty good too.
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Post by donr on Jan 8, 2020 11:58:51 GMT -6
I own a Two Notes Torpedo Studio and a Suhr Reactive Load non-IR. They are both good, with the Studio being 4-5 times the cost of the Suhr due to it's extensive IR capability. I don't think you can go wrong with any recent products from Two Notes, Suhr, Fryette, SPL, etc. Properly loading an amp down to line level seems to be pretty well-understood tech these days, and cabinet IRs are getting pretty good too. Matt, have you tried an amp into the Suhr then line in to the Torpedo for the IR? I wondering if a reactive load box is worth the difference compared to resistive loads. That Pete Thorn Suhr load-TwoNotes CabM video is impressive. |
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Post by donr on Jan 8, 2020 12:04:41 GMT -6
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Post by Ned Ward on Jan 8, 2020 12:37:07 GMT -6
From what I have read, the CabClone isn't in the same league as the Suhr or Two Notes Captor.
Resistive loads don't mimic the way a speaker motor behaves - if you've ever played through an attenuator like a Dr. Z Brake Lite, that's resistive. Definitely worth trying out to see which you prefer, but it seems most are happier with the reactive load boxes.
If you have the Suhr, you can also use Two Notes Torpedo Plugins to try out different plugins, or numerous other speaker IRs.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 8, 2020 12:38:28 GMT -6
What about the UAD OX?
I’m thinking on the Strymon Iridium for recording in my apartment. I would Love to use my amp, but can’t afford the UAD OX.
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Post by donr on Jan 8, 2020 12:41:13 GMT -6
The OX is 1300 bucks at Sweetwater.
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Post by 79sg on Jan 8, 2020 12:44:51 GMT -6
The new Mesa is a reactive load. mesaboogie.com/cabinets--simulators/guitar-cabinets--simulators/guitar-cabinet-simulator/cabclone-ir-plus.html#full-details. They have 2 coming one that also includes an attenuator. If it's like the one that's built into my Mesa Royal Atlantic it is excellent. One of my amps (Mark V:35 head) has the built in cabclone, it's okay (the amp is awesome). Yes, I like Mesa Boogies. Had a Two-Notes Reload and sold it a while back although it was much better than the cabclone, I found the wall of sound plugin to be too cpu intensive on multiple tracks. The new Mesa product is more interesting since it's a reactive load and the cabs are in the pedal. However, since I've profiled all of my amps with my Kemper I don't turn them on as often anymore. Maybe I will if I pick up a new load box. |
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 8, 2020 13:19:17 GMT -6
What about the UAD OX? I’m thinking on the Strymon Iridium for recording in my apartment. I would Love to use my amp, but can’t afford the UAD OX. Is the OX a reactive or resistive load? Also, you cannot load cab IR's into the OX. You get what they give you. |
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Post by ragan on Jan 8, 2020 13:56:21 GMT -6
I had the OX and found it to be a lot of money for something that was really fun to play but didn't win me over sonically. Totally subjective of course.
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Post by matt on Jan 8, 2020 14:24:52 GMT -6
I own a Two Notes Torpedo Studio and a Suhr Reactive Load non-IR. Matt, have you tried an amp into the Suhr then line in to the Torpedo for the IR? Don, that is a combination I have not tried, but I bet it would be excellent, as demonstrated by Pete. Right now I am stuck on The Axe-FX 3 and can't quit it. I'll be recording soon and will try one of my Marshalls into the Suhr and Studio, and report the results. I am confident it will make for a great rig. |
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Post by wiz on Jan 8, 2020 16:55:12 GMT -6
I think a two notes captor 8 ohm, might be the way to go for me... all my amps are either 8 ohms or switchable to 8 ohms.
The captor comes with their IR software, and is only 329UAD (maybe 250USD).
Seems like a winner
Will see if I can get one from a shop with a return policy, not easy in Oz.
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by javamad on Jan 8, 2020 17:35:15 GMT -6
I have 2 x Two Notes Torpedo Reloads that I use when we have live off the floor sessions and I need saturated tones but don't want to spill too much into other mics.
I bought one first and then tested it on my amps to see did it change the tone. I found it pretty neutral so I bought another one.
The fuses that came with them blew and I had to open a ticket with support and they sent me new ones ... but they already know there was an issue ... so why did they not test this in product development? Anyways .. apart form that slight hitch .. no issues.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 8, 2020 17:49:53 GMT -6
I think a two notes captor 8 ohm, might be the way to go for me... all my amps are either 8 ohms or switchable to 8 ohms. The captor comes with their IR software, and is only 329UAD (maybe 250USD). Seems like a winner Will see if I can get one from a shop with a return policy, not easy in Oz. Cheers Wiz Let me know what you think. Regarding impedance, even if you had a 4 ohm amp (Fender Champ), my understanding is that it’s ok to use into an 8ohm load, just not the other way around. That right? |
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Post by wiz on Jan 8, 2020 18:50:05 GMT -6
Okay I have one On order
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Jan 8, 2020 19:00:41 GMT -6
I think a two notes captor 8 ohm, might be the way to go for me... all my amps are either 8 ohms or switchable to 8 ohms. The captor comes with their IR software, and is only 329UAD (maybe 250USD). Seems like a winner Will see if I can get one from a shop with a return policy, not easy in Oz. Cheers Wiz Hi Wiz, The captor does not have a proper reactive/resonant load. If you can swing it get the suhr. I'll send you my prototype to check out if you want. Should be done by feb. |
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Post by wiz on Jan 8, 2020 20:10:03 GMT -6
I think a two notes captor 8 ohm, might be the way to go for me... all my amps are either 8 ohms or switchable to 8 ohms. The captor comes with their IR software, and is only 329UAD (maybe 250USD). Seems like a winner Will see if I can get one from a shop with a return policy, not easy in Oz. Cheers Wiz Hi Wiz, The captor does not have a proper reactive/resonant load. If you can swing it get the suhr. I'll send you my prototype to check out if you want. Should be done by feb. I would love to give it a test Cheers Wiz |
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Post by wiz on Jan 8, 2020 20:10:53 GMT -6
I think a two notes captor 8 ohm, might be the way to go for me... all my amps are either 8 ohms or switchable to 8 ohms. The captor comes with their IR software, and is only 329UAD (maybe 250USD). Seems like a winner Will see if I can get one from a shop with a return policy, not easy in Oz. Cheers Wiz Hi Wiz, The captor does not have a proper reactive/resonant load. If you can swing it get the suhr. I'll send you my prototype to check out if you want. Should be done by feb. Its listed as a reactive load, could you elaborate when you have a chance please? Cheers Wiz |
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 8, 2020 21:53:28 GMT -6
Can you load IR’s into the Captor? That’s where the money is at. There are some excellent cab IR’s available and I wouldn’t want to be limited to just what the box has.
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