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Post by stormymondays on Jan 10, 2020 15:37:33 GMT -6
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jan 10, 2020 18:07:28 GMT -6
I strongly advise that people have their own ISRC registration. That number can be traced right back to the owner without needing to trust some third-party who might not even exist in ten years. There is an EBU standard for embedding an ISRC in a Broadcast Wave file. I understand in some parts of Europe royalties are paid based on embedded ISRCs. In the U.S, I understand that they are about to be used.
In the U.S., a one-time lifetime registration has evolved from free to today's $95.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 10, 2020 20:53:55 GMT -6
ISRC are not embedded in WAV files. Only on CD (which requires specialized software to read) and on the formats delivered to digital distributors by the aggregators, which I suppose differs between services. I just found some extra info here: www.soundonsound.com/forum/viewtopic.phpI don't think that is true. A normal way yes but a bwav can hold a lot a meta data. That's the point of a bwav. |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jan 10, 2020 22:01:06 GMT -6
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Post by stormymondays on Jan 11, 2020 2:25:15 GMT -6
ISRC are not embedded in WAV files. Only on CD (which requires specialized software to read) and on the formats delivered to digital distributors by the aggregators, which I suppose differs between services. I just found some extra info here: www.soundonsound.com/forum/viewtopic.phpI don't think that is true. A normal way yes but a bwav can hold a lot a meta data. That's the point of a bwav. That’s exactly what I said (broken link and all)  WAV files have no standard for embedded data, only broadcast wav. No digital aggregators support broadcast wav. It’s simply not used. Furthermore, any embedded data will be discarded in the submission process. When you upload the files for distribution, that is when metadata is created for the digital services. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 11, 2020 3:08:35 GMT -6
I don't think that is true. A normal way yes but a bwav can hold a lot a meta data. That's the point of a bwav. That’s exactly what I said (broken link and all) WAV files have no standard for embedded data, only broadcast wav. No digital aggregators support broadcast wav. It’s simply not used. Furthermore, any embedded data will be discarded in the submission process. When you upload the files for distribution, that is when metadata is created for the digital services. hmm well there has to be a better way to do distribution. How are bigger labels doing it then? When I create a DDP and other various things for the Label what do they use to get their content on streaming services? Because I don't think they would be using something like that. I bake the ISRC codes into everything and they send me the codes to do that. I just don't know what they do after that. Which seems to be the main issue here. |
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Post by stormymondays on Jan 11, 2020 3:20:11 GMT -6
That’s exactly what I said (broken link and all) WAV files have no standard for embedded data, only broadcast wav. No digital aggregators support broadcast wav. It’s simply not used. Furthermore, any embedded data will be discarded in the submission process. When you upload the files for distribution, that is when metadata is created for the digital services. hmm well there has to be a better way to do distribution. How are bigger labels doing it then? When I create a DDP and other various things for the Label what do they use to get their content on streaming services? Because I don't think they would be using something like that. I bake the ISRC codes into everything and they send me the codes to do that. I just don't know what they do after that. Which seems to be the main issue here. Not sure what you want to improve here. Does it suck to enter song names when uploading songs? A little bit. But there are loads of info that you need to provide for each song. |
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Post by stormymondays on Jan 11, 2020 3:21:34 GMT -6
hmm well there has to be a better way to do distribution. How are bigger labels doing it then? When I create a DDP and other various things for the Label what do they use to get their content on streaming services? Because I don't think they would be using something like that. I bake the ISRC codes into everything and they send me the codes to do that. I just don't know what they do after that. Which seems to be the main issue here. Not sure what you want to improve here. Does it suck to enter song names when uploading songs? A little bit. But there are loads of info that you need to provide for each song. Are you talking major-major labels? If not, they will be using Distrokid, CD Baby, Tunecore most likely. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 11, 2020 3:24:09 GMT -6
Not sure what you want to improve here. Does it suck to enter song names when uploading songs? A little bit. But there are loads of info that you need to provide for each song. Are you talking major-major labels? If not, they will be using Distrokid, CD Baby, Tunecore most likely. Yeah i meant major labels. Because if that is the case then why bother with all the meta data that I get asked to input and send with the masters? I am genuinely curious about this now. If companies like Distrokid, CD Baby, or Tunecore aren't accepting DDPs then something is off. I found these three other sites that Spotify recommended in their help section: FUGA INGROOVES FINETUNES Never heard of them honestly.. |
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Post by stormymondays on Jan 11, 2020 3:28:57 GMT -6
The DDP is only for CD manufacture. I’ve never seen it used for anything else. Come to think of it, it’s probably used to create bwav but I know nothing about digital broadcast formats.
If anything, it’s a convenient repository for all the song metadata.
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Post by EmRR on Jan 11, 2020 7:40:14 GMT -6
The lack of DDP use is very frustrating. It’s not expensive to do, and it’s a standard. The mind boggles when places like Discmakers take them for replication, but NOT for short run duplication.
I don’t think a DDP is ever anything other than 44k1/16?....so useless for MFIT and other requests for higher resolution master submissions.
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Post by stormymondays on Jan 11, 2020 8:36:20 GMT -6
The lack of DDP use is very frustrating. It’s not expensive to do, and it’s a standard. The mind boggles when places like Discmakers take them for replication, but NOT for short run duplication. I don’t think a DDP is ever anything other than 44k1/16?....so useless for MFIT and other requests for higher resolution master submissions. A DDP is one disc-long wav file at 44.1-16, plus the necessary metadata and codes that point to the beginning, end and gaps of the songs. Just like a CD. |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jan 11, 2020 13:54:56 GMT -6
I haven't had anybody reject a DDP in ages. I include the HOFA player which can export .wav files with ISRC embedded.
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