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Post by Quint on Nov 9, 2019 16:35:34 GMT -6
Ditto. I only didn’t buy it as I wasn’t certain I wouldn’t prefer an amp and as the fender sound was certainly a usable sound, didn’t seem fendery to me. If you have a fender amp and you run this on the fx loop or on your board. I think you’d be pleased. I'm not understanding what you're saying. Are you saying that the Fender Deluxe in the Iridium isn't "Fendery" enough?
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Post by Quint on Nov 9, 2019 16:38:27 GMT -6
I’d say quiet but depends on condition of your guitar etc.? The amp "noise" or buzz is whatever was picked up when the IR of the cab was created, right? In other words, if the amp was buzzing, that would be part of the IR and that's what you would hear when you play the Iridium, right?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 9, 2019 17:58:52 GMT -6
I didn’t think the fender sound, sounded like a fender, although it sounded like a clean electric guitar, so still usable?
Agreed but I was referring to your guitar chord, pick ups, ground etc, so possible external sources of noise.
I thought the iridium quiet.
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Post by drbill on Nov 9, 2019 18:51:49 GMT -6
Ditto. I only didn’t buy it as I wasn’t certain I wouldn’t prefer an amp and as the fender sound was certainly a usable sound, didn’t seem fendery to me. If you have a fender amp and you run this on the fx loop or on your board. I think you’d be pleased. I'm not understanding what you're saying. Are you saying that the Fender Deluxe in the Iridium isn't "Fendery" enough? Sounds pretty much like my mid-60's Blackface Deluxe's normal-clean channel. That's the amp I've been using for 30 years. Upon plugging into the Iridium, it was....."ah, there's that sound" to me. My "Vibrato" channel was modded by Paul Rivera back in the day a la the Carlton / Graydon / Ritenour mods, so although it sounds "fendery", it certainly doesn't sound like a stock vintage blackface vibe channel. Obviously the "fender" sound is pretty broad, so to each his own.
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Post by sirthought on Nov 10, 2019 15:50:41 GMT -6
60 Cycle Hum does a comparison of Iridium vs. HX Stomp. He routes things so he's running both amp sims through an IR cab in the Stomp. He rambles a lot, but what I'm getting from it is that the amps are not identical, but similar quality. But when he starts running pedals through those amps, the Iridium sounds so much better to me. Now, that could be because the Stomp is designed for it's own effects, but if you had pedals you like and want to use them, then the Stomp might not give you the better results in that use case.
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Post by donr on Nov 12, 2019 22:03:19 GMT -6
Iridium has a noise gate buit in.
You can easily disconnect the cab IR's or use the IR's and not the amp sims. Instructions on the website. I tried the Iridium amps with IR's in the Two-Notes Torpedo and the Two-Notes CabM, both got great results.
I also have Kempers. I'm convinced you can get record worthy guitar sounds with any of these devices. It's not so much how accurately they emulate the model amps, but how they function as guitar amps themselves. What's missing is your room, your mics and your speaker cabs, but you could do that if you wanted with a full range speaker or guitar cab in your room.
Just as a Hammond tone wheel organ or Wurlitzer electric piano or Hohner Clavinet will likely never be 100% emulated, the emulations are now accepted by the ears of music consumers in the context of their use.
I think guitar amps are more easily substituted by these recent devices than classic keyboards.
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Post by ragan on Nov 12, 2019 23:53:16 GMT -6
This is an interesting product. May have to try one.
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Post by sirthought on Nov 13, 2019 1:10:14 GMT -6
Thanks for the review donr. I'm curious if you are able to get feedback at all, as it's something I use in songs from time to time. I'd guess that's a no go with this? Do you use a MIDI switcher for your shows? If so, which one? I'm thinking this could be pretty sweet to switch amps with from song to song.
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Post by donr on Nov 13, 2019 9:53:31 GMT -6
Thanks for the review donr . I'm curious if you are able to get feedback at all, as it's something I use in songs from time to time. I'd guess that's a no go with this? Do you use a MIDI switcher for your shows? If so, which one? I'm thinking this could be pretty sweet to switch amps with from song to song. That's something I haven't tried. I'll try it this weekend. My stage volume is now mostly too low to induce feedback with a solid body guitar. There's devices for that too. : ) With Kemper, there's endless amp possibilities but I wind up using one of a handful I like. I used the Vox and Marshall emu's on the Iridium last weekend with BOC. I use a midi controller, www.roland.com/us/products/fc-300/, to control my delay and mod effects.
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Post by indiehouse on Nov 13, 2019 10:49:04 GMT -6
Thanks for the review donr . I'm curious if you are able to get feedback at all, as it's something I use in songs from time to time. I'd guess that's a no go with this? Do you use a MIDI switcher for your shows? If so, which one? I'm thinking this could be pretty sweet to switch amps with from song to song. That's something I haven't tried. I'll try it this weekend. My stage volume is now mostly too low to induce feedback with a solid body guitar. There's devices for that too. : ) With Kemper, there's endless amp possibilities but I wind up using one of a handful I like. I used the Vox and Marshall emu's on the Iridium last weekend with BOC. I use a midi controller, www.roland.com/us/products/fc-300/, to control my delay and mod effects. I’d be interested to hear some more thoughts on the Strymon vs Kemper once you spend more time with it. I’m like you, I only end up using just a couple profiles and would be just fine with just those options. The thought of making the swap and pocketing some coin is appealing.
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Post by ragan on Nov 13, 2019 11:50:49 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna grab one of these. It would be a really lovely solution for no latency tracking, if nothing else. But the sounds I'm hearing in clips are friggin' great so I think it's probably good for a lot more than that. I'd always take a pure DI signal as well and then do whatever I want in the moment with pedals/Iridium. From there I can keep the Iridium track, use TH-U or re-amp, whatever sounded best in a given situation.
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Post by Quint on Nov 13, 2019 11:58:48 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna grab one of these. It would be a really lovely solution for no latency tracking, if nothing else. But the sounds I'm hearing in clips are friggin' great so I think it's probably good for a lot more than that. I'd always take a pure DI signal as well and then do whatever I want in the moment with pedals/Iridium. From there I can keep the Iridium track, use TH-U or re-amp, whatever sounded best in a given situation. Yep. That's exactly how I'm feeling about it. I would also still take a pure DI for reamping later, but the idea that you can get tracks sounding this good for this price, and with no latency headaches, is what makes the Iridium so appealing.
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Post by Calvin on Nov 14, 2019 14:13:14 GMT -6
I'm loving the idea that I can use the cab irs without the amp sims if I want. That way, if I want to dial up a sound on one of my amps, I can do so running through my Suhr reactive load. I'd already been looking for a stereo cab ir loader to use with my reactive load, so the amp sims are a bonus.
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Post by ragan on Nov 18, 2019 22:55:56 GMT -6
Couldn't take it any longer. Got one coming. Couldn't exactly 'order' it because they're out of stock but I reserved one.
This thing ticks a lot of boxes for me.
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Post by drbill on Nov 18, 2019 23:08:23 GMT -6
Couldn't take it any longer. Got one coming. Couldn't exactly 'order' it because they're out of stock but I reserved one. This thing ticks a lot of boxes for me. Cool! Seems like it's a hit for Strymon. Let us know your thoughts after you get it!
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Post by drbill on Nov 18, 2019 23:54:43 GMT -6
I think if you're a guitarist and love standing in front of your tube amps, and that "live in the room with an amp" is the yardstick by which you measure it's sonics - you may well be disappointed. If you're like me, and you measure the sonics against an amp in another room, mic'd, going thru a preamp, monitored thru your DAW - then you may be quite happy.
Perspective.
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Post by ragan on Nov 18, 2019 23:55:51 GMT -6
I think if you're a guitarist and love standing in front of your tube amps, and that "live in the room with an amp" is the yardstick by which you measure it's sonics - you may well be disappointed. If you're like me, and you measure the sonics against an amp in another room, mic'd, going thru a preamp, monitored thru your DAW - then you may be quite happy. Perspective. I am most certainly in the latter camp. Been monitoring that way pretty much exclusively for years.
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Post by drbill on Nov 19, 2019 0:05:17 GMT -6
I think if you're a guitarist and love standing in front of your tube amps, and that "live in the room with an amp" is the yardstick by which you measure it's sonics - you may well be disappointed. If you're like me, and you measure the sonics against an amp in another room, mic'd, going thru a preamp, monitored thru your DAW - then you may be quite happy. Perspective. I am most certainly in the latter camp. Been monitoring that way pretty much exclusively for years. I'm sure you'll dig it ragan. I was speaking metaphorically, but didn't really express it that way. Enjoy it!!
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 19, 2019 10:52:36 GMT -6
I take Dr Bill’s point as that is what I felt demoing into my headphones and I liked what I was hearing: just wasn’t ready to commit to no real amp.
Next day an Egnator rebel 20 watt head with nice 12 in kustom add popped up on kijji, so I grabbed that instead.
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Post by ragan on Nov 19, 2019 11:45:37 GMT -6
I take Dr Bill’s point as that is what I felt demoing into my headphones and I liked what I was hearing: just wasn’t ready to commit to no real amp. Next day an Egnator rebel 20 watt head with nice 12 in kustom add popped up on kijji, so I grabbed that instead. Oh I’m not ready to commit to no real amp either! Got five of them sitting next to me and they ain’t going anywhere. But I am ready to have good, latency free tones for tracking. From there I’ll either keep the Iridium track, use TH-U or re-amp/mic. And any one of those three are up to the task of getting keeper tones. Amazing.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 19, 2019 12:11:54 GMT -6
If you haven’t ordered one: do, I think you will dig it!
I only had money for one, so went with real amp, but I think I will buy an iridium f they come on sale or eventually a used one.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 20, 2019 16:09:18 GMT -6
Name calling will get your post deleted.
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Post by donr on Nov 21, 2019 7:01:03 GMT -6
I've been using the Iridium live. The Vox emu. I'm using it with the Two-Notes Torpedo two mic cab IR's instead of the built in ones, and my drive pedals in front of it. I like the sound I'm getting. There's lots of ways to go these days to get really satisfying guitar tone.
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Post by nobtwiddler on Nov 21, 2019 7:18:37 GMT -6
If you approach this pedal like it's just another choice of amp, then it's a great fit. Running it into a nice mic pre is a big help, instead of just going direct.
I have 37 amps in my control room to pick from, (cabinets are all mic'ed up, and located in the basement) and I can easily see this pedal fitting in as just another tasty choice!
That plus I jut put another small remote recording rig together based around the new UA X4, and using this pedal I have no worries about latency or running out of DSP (using one of UA's amp sims) while tracking with the X4. So far it's been working / sounding great. Very cool box for the money. WE'VE COME A LONG WAY SINCE THE "ROCKMAN"
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 21, 2019 9:57:37 GMT -6
Now THIS is impressive.
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