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Post by reddirt on Oct 12, 2019 7:55:39 GMT -6
Also, if distance , Omni etc is giving you too much rubbish room, try different gobo arrangements. Cheers, Ross
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 12, 2019 8:02:15 GMT -6
I have an unusual suggestion, buy a Tone Right. www.tonerite.comIt's a device that vibrates the guitar, simulating hours of playing to help with flexibility which is a huge part of tone. Along with the Tone Right reviving guitars that have sat around unplayed for a while, it balances the tone from low to high. The lows are less boomy, the highs are clear and warm, not tinny. This would likely fix your guitar's tonal imbalance. I recently was given a guitar that had been on the same stand for 23 years, never played or moved! It was dull and dead. I used the Tone Right for a 3 1/2 days and it was revived. I then had the guitar set up and it's doing well. A few more months of playing should open it up, but the Tone Right saved the day.
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Post by johneppstein on Oct 12, 2019 12:24:19 GMT -6
Distance , placement and mic are where you have to concentrate; all the eq in the world won't prooerly fix recorded resonance IME . Don't be afraid to try more distance, the mic in Omni and/or off to the neck side with a mic with the right sonic signature. E.G an 84 will probably exacerbate your issue even though it is widely acknowledged to be a great mic, just as micing the soundhole is not a goer. This is a case when you have to use your ears and feel free to possibly break conventional wisdoms. Cheers, Ross I don't agree that an 84 would exacerbate this problem but that did make me think of something, which is that it would be a good idea to pay attention to the mic's off-axis response, especially how it interacts with your room resonances. A lot of very popular mics (for example the 57 and 421) have terrible off-axis response.
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Post by chessparov on Oct 12, 2019 15:02:57 GMT -6
Sounds like you need another guitar. For any guitarist... When is that NOT true! Chris
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Post by bluegrassdan on Oct 12, 2019 20:45:46 GMT -6
Widening the soundhole will clean up muddiness, if you're a man who likes to make sawdust and splinters.
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Post by johneppstein on Oct 13, 2019 11:46:57 GMT -6
Widening the soundhole will clean up muddiness, if you're a man who likes to make sawdust and splinters. Well, we don't know what guitar he's having the problem with. There are a lot of guitars you wouldn't want to to that with.
It probably would help if he would tell us what the guitar is?
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Post by bluegrassdan on Oct 13, 2019 23:23:22 GMT -6
Reminds me of a session about 10 years ago.
Young man brings in a Collings rosewood dread that was so dang boomy. We tried two or three different stereo pairs, all kinds of positions and distances, and everything was rubbish. The guy played exceptionally well and the mics were great, but the guitar was a tubby, flabby, mess.
He leaves.
Right behind him walks in Tim Stafford with his legendary 1934 D-18. All original, and all gorgeous.
You could mic that guitar ANYWHERE and it was stellar. Move in close...beautiful. Back way up....still beautiful. KM84s...SM57....piece of dog poop with an xlr...you couldn't make that guitar sound bad if you tried.
So, what do you do?
You either get a guitar with better tone or you use EQ to fix the problem. Not much else you can do.
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Post by Ward on Oct 14, 2019 8:34:49 GMT -6
tkaitkai : Say, would you be able to video a little bit of your tracking and then also post a short audio clip of your results? It might make it easier to get the kind of peer help you're in need of.
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