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Post by M57 on Sept 23, 2019 6:07:14 GMT -6
Even in the "affordable" category, I.e. around $1000 or less, there's quite a range of prices, with the Klark Technic coming in at under $300!
Klark Technic EQP-KT Warm Audio EQP-WA Audio-Scape EQP-A others...
Compare and contrast.
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Post by Vincent R. on Sept 23, 2019 6:48:25 GMT -6
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Post by jamiesego on Sept 23, 2019 7:43:23 GMT -6
There’s also the DIYRE solid state 500 series as well as the Pulse Technique 500 series. Haven’t personally tried either. Also I think there’s a DIY option from AML.
I personally like the sound of the Warm eq that I have but I did have a pot break and had to have it repaired.
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Post by subspace on Sept 23, 2019 7:44:06 GMT -6
And the DIYRE EQP5 for the 2520-based Pultec thing.
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Post by swafford on Sept 23, 2019 8:03:42 GMT -6
GOLY PQ2 is based around the Pultec. 1600Euros for stereo, mastering grade switches for easy matching and recall and a fabulous looking box design. I had a pair of Warm units for years, the bottom was good, the top was pretty grainy. I'll have an Audioscape here Wednesday. In my dream world, the Audioscape hits the bass like I want to hear it and I have a GOLY sitting across the 2-Buss.
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Post by drbill on Sept 23, 2019 11:54:44 GMT -6
The new Audioscape Pultec comes in JUST over your $1000 cap. That's the one I'll be looking towards when I can find some rack space and $$ at the same time....
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Post by M57 on Sept 23, 2019 15:23:27 GMT -6
The new Audioscape Pultec comes in JUST over your $1000 cap. That's the one I'll be looking towards when I can find some rack space and $$ at the same time.... I mentioned the A-S in my original post. So what's the difference between the A-S and the Warm and the KT. The price of the KT is pretty astounding, and from what I've read, the tubes it comes with aren't too shabby. At two and three times the price respectively, the difference better be more than a different set of tubes and transformers.
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Post by swafford on Sept 23, 2019 16:08:44 GMT -6
The new Audioscape Pultec comes in JUST over your $1000 cap. That's the one I'll be looking towards when I can find some rack space and $$ at the same time.... I mentioned the A-S in my original post. So what's the difference between the A-S and the Warm and the KT. The price of the KT is pretty astounding, and from what I've read, the tubes it comes with aren't too shabby. At two and three times the price respectively, the difference better be more than a different set of tubes and transformers. The Warm is based on the Pultec circuit and takes a number of short cuts - 2 tubes of current manufacture, off the shelf transformers and no interstage transformer and a 1 year warranty. The Audioscape followed the original schematic and claims to have corrected errors that prevent the published schematic from sounding like an original (at certain frequencies), uses three NOS tubes (the addition of a rectifier tube like the original), custom wound transformers to mimic the originals (I suppose as much as current environmental law allows), includes the interstage transformer and a 2 year warranty. All this stuff requires a 3U chassis. Never looked at the KT, but I'm sure they have information on their website just like the others did.
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Post by drbill on Sept 23, 2019 16:09:20 GMT -6
The KT's are decent. Definitely useable. I've got a pair. I use them all the time. They are not historically "correct" though. Neither are the Warms. The KT seems like it's more a copy of the Warm than the original. Neither the warm or KT have the interstage transformer.
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Post by geoff738 on Sept 23, 2019 16:33:17 GMT -6
What does the interstate transformer bring to the table?
Cheers, Geoff
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Post by Quint on Sept 23, 2019 17:45:03 GMT -6
What does the interstate transformer bring to the table? Cheers, Geoff Hot audio sex.
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Post by geoff738 on Sept 23, 2019 19:40:59 GMT -6
What does the interstate transformer bring to the table? Cheers, Geoff Hot audio sex. Well, yeah. But other than that. Or maybe that’s all there is. Cheers, Geoff
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Post by swafford on Sept 24, 2019 0:23:25 GMT -6
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Post by craigmorris74 on Sept 24, 2019 7:32:23 GMT -6
Be careful going by the Sweetwater shootout. The KT files they posted are more than a decibel quieter than the others, and they booster the highs more and the lows less. In other words, they were trying to make it sound thin.
In reality, the KT is a pretty clean passive EQ with a nice tube make up gain stage. It does not give you the woolly mojo of a vintage unit or a Pulse.
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Post by Omicron9 on Sept 24, 2019 7:41:59 GMT -6
OK, I'll ask. Plugins?
-09
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Post by tasteliketape on Sept 24, 2019 7:49:03 GMT -6
My question would be what one gets closer to the pultec sound if any Like that has been stated some of these are useable eq’s, but they don’t sound like a pultec. So is there one that’s pretty close? After all that’s what I think we would be chasing that sound not just a useable eq.
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Post by adamjbrass on Sept 24, 2019 8:54:44 GMT -6
OK, I'll ask. Plugins? -09 This one is pretty affordable
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Post by Guitar on Sept 24, 2019 9:21:56 GMT -6
OK, I'll ask. Plugins? -09 Rule Tec Heritage Pro from Noise Ash $49 on sale right now in my listening test 90% of the Pulse in the sweetwater/GS shootouts plus you get the HPF and LPF, and the extra mid bands from the MEQ best pultec plugin I have ever used
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Post by dreamsambas on Sept 24, 2019 9:35:45 GMT -6
My question would be what one gets closer to the pultec sound if any Like that has been stated some of these are useable eq’s, but they don’t sound like a pultec. So is there one that’s pretty close? After all that’s what I think we would be chasing that sound not just a useable eq. Yep- a lot of the Pultec magic is its box tone. It makes things sound round even when EQ isn’t engaged. I wonder if any of the clones can do this like the original.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 9:48:40 GMT -6
OK, I'll ask. Plugins? -09 Rule Tec Heritage Pro from Noise Ash $49 on sale right now in my listening test 90% of the Pulse in the sweetwater/GS shootouts plus you get the HPF and LPF, and the extra mid bands from the MEQ best pultec plugin I have ever used I strongly agree with this. Pretty impressive to try it in the context of the mentioned shootout. Sounds very close to the pulse unit. Better than a lot of the hardware, at least in this particular case. The UAD plugin (as most of the others) sounds like a outdated plugin version in comparison.
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Post by Guitar on Sept 24, 2019 10:40:22 GMT -6
Many say KT gear is built better than Warm.
That scares me because I don't like the way KT gear is built.
I'd probably aim for the $1,000 boutique price point or look for a great DIY if that's an option.
The affordable pultecs I still have on hand are the Lindell PEX-500. They are cheap and good.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 10:45:02 GMT -6
There'a also a used Pulse 500 series unit.
Thanks for the tip on the Rule Tec - it rules..
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Post by Quint on Sept 24, 2019 11:56:03 GMT -6
My question would be what one gets closer to the pultec sound if any Like that has been stated some of these are useable eq’s, but they don’t sound like a pultec. So is there one that’s pretty close? After all that’s what I think we would be chasing that sound not just a useable eq. Yep- a lot of the Pultec magic is its box tone. It makes things sound round even when EQ isn’t engaged. I wonder if any of the clones can do this like the original. But if you're not chasing the magic and just want the curves with a relatively clean tone, $300 is hard to beat for the KT. I bought two of the KTs for that exact reason. I have other gear that I can use to add tone if I want it.
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Post by Guitar on Sept 24, 2019 11:58:52 GMT -6
KT doesn't have the right curves. If you want to get real specific about it. As EmRR pointed out years ago there is a missing inductor tap on the HF inductor so some of the frequency selections "share" an inductor that they usually wouldn't. The curves end up being a little too broad compared to a golden unit. I liked the low end on the KT a lot, but the high end was a little spitty or grainy or something, best in small doses.
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Post by Quint on Sept 24, 2019 12:17:39 GMT -6
KT doesn't have the right curves. If you want to get real specific about it. As EmRR pointed out years ago there is a missing inductor tap on the HF inductor so some of the frequency selections "share" an inductor that they usually wouldn't. The curves end up being a little too broad compared to a golden unit. I liked the low end on the KT a lot, but the high end was a little spitty or grainy or something, best in small doses. Yeah, I guess I should have specified that I was talking about the low curves, which is primarily what I use them for. But like I said, $300 for a piece of hardware for shaping the low end is something that I'm totally fine with. I do wish they had the right number of taps on the HF inductor though.
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