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Beyer 201
Aug 14, 2019 15:11:43 GMT -6
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Post by drsax on Aug 14, 2019 15:11:43 GMT -6
I’m with ragan here... and just because they’re dry and fat doesn’t mean they are “Flubby”. They can still be tight It’s subjective, as is music... we are definitely in the land of personal taste - no right or wrong way to do it, 57 or 201 or otherwise. Nah those are pretty flubby. Anyway, I don't care for 'em. People can do as they wish though... Even if they're wrong! You guys need to work on sarcasm a bit though.. Not sure I’m understanding your sarcasm, but it’s all good... I respect your opinion svart - But just for clarification, are you saying the 201 is flubby? Or are you referring to the drum sounds on some of the videos that are posted in this thread?
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Beyer 201
Aug 14, 2019 15:28:07 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Aug 14, 2019 15:28:07 GMT -6
Nah those are pretty flubby. Anyway, I don't care for 'em. People can do as they wish though... Even if they're wrong! You guys need to work on sarcasm a bit though.. Not sure I’m understanding your sarcasm, but it’s all good... I respect your opinion svart - But just for clarification, are you saying the 201 is flubby? Or are you referring to the drum sounds on some of the videos that are posted in this thread? Just the drums themselves. To me they sound like someone just put the heads on and barely turned the lugs without care.. but I'm just talking trash. Folks can enjoy what they like.
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Post by chessparov on Aug 14, 2019 16:00:20 GMT -6
There's a joke in their somewhere John E., between Rubenesque & wet (I've been with skinny Twiggy's, all the way to Rubenesque's), but I'll keep it "PG" here. But you certainly couldn't have "Runyonesque", without some liquor! Chris
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Beyer 201
Aug 14, 2019 16:49:53 GMT -6
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Post by drsax on Aug 14, 2019 16:49:53 GMT -6
Not sure I’m understanding your sarcasm, but it’s all good... I respect your opinion svart - But just for clarification, are you saying the 201 is flubby? Or are you referring to the drum sounds on some of the videos that are posted in this thread? Just the drums themselves. To me they sound like someone just put the heads on and barely turned the lugs without care.. but I'm just talking trash. Folks can enjoy what they like. Ah, I see... thanks for the clarification
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 20:24:27 GMT -6
...the 201 has a HUGE proximity effect (like the m88). It adds a lot more thickness when placed close to a snare than an sm57 does. It also has less high mid. If placed "wrong", you'll get too much "thud" as mentioned. Pull it back a bit and it picks up more snare wire, shell and highs. Place it an inch or so higher off the top head and pull it back where it's just outside of the rim off the snare. I also use an i5 live for snare top and that's nice too. 201 is a nice vocal mic w/the included foam windscreen. I tried in once on my GS mini acoustic but it was kinda "meh". Sounds awesome on guitar amps. Have not tried on overheads yet but plan to. I've been experimenting with using an all EV lineup (RE15, RE10, RE20) on drums, except for the OHs and room mics, and then using eq, Kush Electras specifically (but other eqs too), to eq in (or out) what I want. Yes, these EV mics don't get the typical proximity effect because of their design, but the benefit is that they can be optimally placed anywhere without proximity effect ever being a problem (which it can), and the off axis response is never a problem, also because of the design of the EV mics. The Electras are a great eq for using to then make each of the mics sound however you want. I like the idea of the flexibility and not being boxed in by the need to compromise between proximity effect, physical limitations, and off axis response. I hear you, man!! I love my EV 635a on OH and room! It rules. I used to own the Electra 500 series and it sounds great! Also owned re15 but didn't like it on vocals (what I wanted it for) so I sold it. Maybe I should have tried it on drums. Where do you use it on the kit? I actually love proximity effect on close miced drums. I like the thud too:)
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Post by notneeson on Aug 15, 2019 7:44:43 GMT -6
I've been experimenting with using an all EV lineup (RE15, RE10, RE20) on drums, except for the OHs and room mics, and then using eq, Kush Electras specifically (but other eqs too), to eq in (or out) what I want. Yes, these EV mics don't get the typical proximity effect because of their design, but the benefit is that they can be optimally placed anywhere without proximity effect ever being a problem (which it can), and the off axis response is never a problem, also because of the design of the EV mics. The Electras are a great eq for using to then make each of the mics sound however you want. I like the idea of the flexibility and not being boxed in by the need to compromise between proximity effect, physical limitations, and off axis response. I hear you, man!! I love my EV 635a on OH and room! It rules. I used to own the Electra 500 series and it sounds great! Also owned re15 but didn't like it on vocals (what I wanted it for) so I sold it. Maybe I should have tried it on drums. Where do you use it on the kit? I actually love proximity effect on close miced drums. I like the thud too:) I did a guerrilla recording session one time where there happened to be a flight of stairs that wrapped up and around just behind where we put the drums. 635A sticking out over the kit about 30 feet up was awesome sounding!
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Post by chessparov on Aug 15, 2019 14:42:51 GMT -6
635a can also be a great vocal mic. Just ask Bob O... Chris
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 21:41:42 GMT -6
635a can also be a great vocal mic. Just ask Bob O... Chris For sure! I like it on vocals too. ..great on aco gtr 14th fret, behind bridge or over players right shoulder. Get up close no proximity mud. Nice mixed with other mic spaced pair stereo. I'm gonna play with my 201 when I get a day off. Wanna try on mono drum OH right over snare maybe 3' from batter head.
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