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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 1:46:59 GMT -6
I was expecting it soon, but there's some serious unrest in Chile right now, so that may have delayed things a bit. No fault of Stam's though. Give it a little more time. Stam wrote in a FB post that their current production capacities aren't effected too much by the unrest. So not sure this is relevant in this specific context.
Maybe Stam could join in and give us an update.
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Post by saltyjames on Nov 18, 2019 18:02:31 GMT -6
I'm noticing that the SA87 and the SA67 have different capsules. The site says the 67 has the Heiserman and the 87 has the pizzolante.
No mention of Tim Campbell's capsule.. and didn't he specialize in the CK12 capsule? I have a few and they are exceptional in my JJaudio Dutch mics.
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Post by notneeson on Nov 18, 2019 20:15:04 GMT -6
I'm noticing that the SA87 and the SA67 have different capsules. The site says the 67 has the Heiserman and the 87 has the pizzolante. No mention of Tim Campbell's capsule.. and didn't he specialize in the CK12 capsule? I have a few and they are exceptional in my JJaudio Dutch mics. The Stam site is often out of date on component detail, I’ve noticed. And yes, same Tim, he posted about this capsule/partnership somewhere, possibly in this thread. (There are so many Stam threads).
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 18, 2019 21:16:45 GMT -6
SA67's will have a Tim Campbell capsule from now on. Joshua was making some very minor tweaks, so I expect it to be ready very soon.
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Post by stam on Nov 19, 2019 2:31:09 GMT -6
Yes, it will have the Tim Campbell capsule We will update the site today Thanks Martin
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Post by j4s0n on Dec 9, 2020 19:57:25 GMT -6
Hi timcampbell I think its reasonable to say most of us are pretty excited to hear you're making a k67 capsule, and that you are working with Joshua on this mic! In regards to how you're approaching the capsule production, and not to pry too far into anything proprietary, I was hoping to hear your thoughts regarding something Klaus had said about the tensioning of the 67/87/870 capsules -- how you approach the issue and what we can expect from this offering. I know there has been some back and forth with the capsules in the sa-67 and that the finally revision may not yet be in the hands of consumers, so I'm curious to know what your feelings are on the final 'revision' (if any) in relation to the tensioning of these capsules, especially for a larger production run like this. Klaus's thoughts: (This was in regards to the U67 reissue and some of the tonal differences/consistency issues Klaus was finding in newer 67/87 capsules, and how he believes they have increased the tension to negate the number of 'failures' at the cost of a "warm, lush, full..." tone.) "The old, pre-2000 capsules were often warm, lush, full, rich, however you want to describe a pleasant-sounding K67. But what we as consumers never saw: this comes at the price of too many of these capsule being a bit TOO lush (i.e. bass-heavy, with a tendency to fold up upon 'plosives, or, worse, a tendency to mechanically distort, due to the charged backplate's electrostatic attraction, which inherently makes for a non-linear excursion of the diaphragm). As too many capsules fell out of the lower limit of tolerance range, and as the capsule is the single most expensive component during manufacturing, and as bean counters are always counting in the background, my speculation was: if they slightly increase the diaphragm tension, they will drastically lower the percentage of rejects. So that was probably why it was done, never mind the consequences to good, balanced response." Looking forward to laying my hands on one of these!
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 9, 2020 20:40:59 GMT -6
j4s0n, welcome to the forum!
In all honesty, the TC Mk. II capsule nailed it. I had an early version which was very good, but not what you might call magic. The SA67 Mk II version is a no brainer. I've heard some private tracks of the Neumann reissue and the Stam 67 done at the same time. I chose the Stam blind on the four tracks. The Neumann reissue was brighter, the Stam was closer to a vintage model, so there's no excess brightness at all. Don't get me wrong, the reissue was fantastic, a serious mic. The Stam just sounded more like the vintage 67's do.
Stam has gone the extra mile time and time again to catch up on orders, but Covid was so serious where he is they had to shut the factory and do what they could from home. The goal was to match a vintage U67, not the reissue. Stam owns 3 Vintage 67's, one is basically NOS, so his references are impeccable. I'm really picky about these things, and I'm very happy with the way the Stam turned out.
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 9, 2020 20:47:49 GMT -6
j4s0n, welcome to the forum! In all honesty, the TC Mk. II capsule nailed it. I had an early version which was very good, but not what you might call magic. The SA67 Mk II version is a no brainer. I've heard some private tracks of the Neumann reissue and the Stam 67 done at the same time. I chose the Stam blind on the four tracks. The Neumann reissue was brighter, the Stam was closer to a vintage model, so there's no excess brightness at all. Don't get me wrong, the reissue was fantastic, a serious mic. The Stam just sounded more like the vintage 67's do. Stam has gone the extra mile time and time again to catch up on orders, but Covid was so serious where he is they had to shut the factory and do what they could from home. The goal was to match a vintage U67, not the reissue. Stam owns 3 Vintage 67's, one is basically NOS, so his references are impeccable. I'm really picky about these things, and I'm very happy with the way the Stam turned out. I'm certainly happy with how mine turned out, too.
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Post by timcampbell on Dec 9, 2020 20:55:25 GMT -6
Welcome j4s0n. Thank you for the kind words. Your question is probably better suited for www.groupdiy.comI highly respect Klaus and consider him a friend but I would add that there are other aspects of capsule manufacturing that can control the bass response and whether the capsule is prone to collapse other than membrane tension so to me this doesn't seem a logical solution. Neumann not only came up with most modern criteria for condenser microphones but also all the methods for testing them. They would employ a better solution than changing the membrane tension.
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Post by j4s0n on Dec 9, 2020 21:14:45 GMT -6
Thanks for the input guys! I have no doubt it’s going to sound good, especially with these two behind it — thanks for sharing your thoughts.
And thank you for the reply Tim, I had just stumbled upon that thread earlier and not knowing the finer aspects of capsule making found it to be an interesting topic — only relevant because it’s about the same capsule. But I understand it’s not so simple as that, thanks for your input as well.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 9, 2020 22:09:02 GMT -6
I am very pleased with my sa67 mkii, but have never used a real or reissue one. I find there is a detail, texture and top end, that I really appreciate and that even the proximity effect has a subtle linearality to it, so you can dial in exactly how much extra body or texture you want, switching things up say, between verse and chorus for example. It just seems a great mike to me.
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Post by soundintheround on Dec 9, 2020 23:42:22 GMT -6
I have both the SA-47 and SA-67 mk2. No complaints here!! At some point will have to compare it to my friends vintage 67 Josh we are ready for your KM-54 or KM-84 please
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Post by stam on Dec 10, 2020 12:10:56 GMT -6
Hey Guys,
Thank you for the kind feedback
Once I catch up with all orders I will probably spend some time on a couple of new mics (including originals) but we still have several months of work ahead of us fully booked.
Right now we have some 47's in stock (Tube) and 87's. The 251 will come with the 47 FET MK2 in March and some more 67's hopefully.
Tim did an incredible job with these K67 capsules as he did with the CK12. The merit goes to him.
Josh
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Post by Quint on Dec 10, 2020 12:38:36 GMT -6
Hey Guys, Thank you for the kind feedback Once I catch up with all orders I will probably spend some time on a couple of new mics (including originals) but we still have several months of work ahead of us fully booked. Right now we have some 47's in stock (Tube) and 87's. The 251 will come with the 47 FET MK2 in March and some more 67's hopefully. Tim did an incredible job with these K67 capsules as he did with the CK12. The merit goes to him. Josh When do you expect to get the remainder of the 67s out for delivery? I've been waiting on mine for a while now.
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Post by j4s0n on Dec 10, 2020 12:49:42 GMT -6
Once I catch up with all orders I will probably spend some time on a couple of new mics (including originals) but we still have several months of work ahead of us fully booked. Hey Josh, I have to say im very intrigued by the idea of some Stam originals, I know its a waaaays out, but any bits of info you'd be willing dangle for us about what you've been working on/planning?
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Post by subspace on Dec 10, 2020 13:04:17 GMT -6
Right now we have some 47's in stock (Tube) and 87's. The 251 will come with the 47 FET MK2 in March and some more 67's hopefully. Paid invoice#7444 in full on October 29th, are one of these in stock tube 47s heading my way?
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Post by stam on Dec 10, 2020 13:13:11 GMT -6
Right now we have some 47's in stock (Tube) and 87's. The 251 will come with the 47 FET MK2 in March and some more 67's hopefully. Paid invoice#7444 in full on October 29th, are one of these in stock tube 47s heading my way? Indeed but kindly email Sori at info@stamaudio.com for your tracking number if you have not received it. I hope you enjoy the SA-47
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Post by stam on Dec 10, 2020 13:21:14 GMT -6
Once I catch up with all orders I will probably spend some time on a couple of new mics (including originals) but we still have several months of work ahead of us fully booked. Hey Josh, I have to say im very intrigued by the idea of some Stam originals, I know its a waaaays out, but any bits of info you'd be willing dangle for us about what you've been working on/planning? We have about ten original designs that were place on hold until we fulfill back orders. The engineering was completed a while ago and they all were born as an attempt to improve on the classics or add something to the mix. If we ever find the time to make them they will be sold in stock and in small batches of 10-15 pieces. Out of these ten designs three are microphones, these mics were small timber discoveries I made while tweaking vintage units. Two of them are tube based and one is a FET design. There is a possibility that these will me manufactured in Europe and not in Chile but again our focus is solely on delivering what's been reserved before we take on other projects. Thank you for your interest in my work! Much appreciated.
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