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Post by sirthought on Jul 23, 2019 14:04:18 GMT -6
It doesn't feel like a good match to me, but maybe it'll stay the same or get better. LINK TO THE VERGE
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Post by EmRR on Jul 23, 2019 14:05:18 GMT -6
ugh
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Post by hadaja on Jul 23, 2019 14:10:43 GMT -6
My wife does etsy. There payment system is terrible. They use there own etsy payment system for you to pay there fees. There expense report system is a nightmare as they charge as they go. Since they listed on the stock exchange there fees went up. could this be the death of reverb? . There etsy search engine algorithm changes regularly. Hopefully there is a big waiting period before they bring this stuff over to reverb. Etsy sellers left in droves when they made these changes.
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Post by sirthought on Jul 23, 2019 14:13:51 GMT -6
Sounds like we need a competitive Real Gear Online marketplace.
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Post by hadaja on Jul 23, 2019 14:17:34 GMT -6
About 3-6 months ago we lost our only Reverb Australian employed representative so something must be up with reverb.
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Post by aremos on Jul 23, 2019 14:31:20 GMT -6
Reverb is an, unpredictable, weird company. I was one of the first ReverbLessons.com music teachers (educational part of Reverb.com) & for 2 years the amount of students went up, at least, 50%. Things were going beyond well that they even increased payments to teachers & started paying weekly instead of bi-monthly. Into the 3rd year they folded & lists of students & records were sold to another company in San Diego,CA.
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Post by m03 on Jul 23, 2019 14:48:57 GMT -6
My wife does etsy. There payment system is terrible. They use there own etsy payment system for you to pay there fees. There expense report system is a nightmare as they charge as they go. Since they listed on the stock exchange there fees went up. could this be the death of reverb? . There etsy search engine algorithm changes regularly. Hopefully there is a big waiting period before they bring this stuff over to reverb. Etsy sellers left in droves when they made these changes. It's an auction company that also serves a large subculture and has its own payment system, so conceptual similarity is there. They'll probably try to unify the backend of both sites so that they run under a mostly-shared infrastructure and architecture (there's some example of success here already with Reverb LP). The acquisition makes sense to me, provided infighting and kingdom-building of internal groups doesn't wreck it.
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Post by LesC on Jul 23, 2019 18:32:05 GMT -6
Wait, is Etsy buying Reeverb or Ruhverb?
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Post by EmRR on Jul 23, 2019 19:37:44 GMT -6
In my mind Etsy has had a much larger history of snafus and user-alienating morphs than Ebay ever had, but they've not been in the news as much because of the niche. My wife is a visual artist and has had presence there on and off for a decade, so I've maybe seen and heard more than most.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 23, 2019 19:55:36 GMT -6
Sounds like we need a competitive Real Gear Online marketplace. That would be a hole in the market for sure...but goodness, Reverb has been a godsend.
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Post by indiehouse on Jul 23, 2019 20:12:32 GMT -6
Sounds like we need a competitive Real Gear Online marketplace. That would be a hole in the market for sure...but goodness, Reverb has been a godsend. I really dig Reverb. It's really the only place that I move any gear these days. Definitely not doing any selling on eBay, and not a whole lot of buying/browsing either, which is probably for the best. Though I did score that Martin Sinker for a couple of dimes on eBay, so... But I prefer Reverb by a mile. A country mile, even.
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Post by ragan on Jul 23, 2019 20:41:12 GMT -6
I like Reverb too. Well laid out, easy. Fun to browse. Easy to buy and sell.
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Jul 23, 2019 21:16:14 GMT -6
That would be a hole in the market for sure...but goodness, Reverb has been a godsend. I really dig Reverb. It's really the only place that I move any gear these days. Definitely not doing any selling on eBay, and not a whole lot of buying/browsing either, which is probably for the best. Though I did score that Martin Sinker for a couple of dimes on eBay, so... But I prefer Reverb by a mile. A country mile, even. I have listed on both recently. Ebay has more hits and sold first each time. I like Reverb but they default to local search, which means that if you are outside of the US you don't get visibility like ebay. At least that is my theory.
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Post by indiehouse on Jul 24, 2019 3:50:53 GMT -6
I really dig Reverb. It's really the only place that I move any gear these days. Definitely not doing any selling on eBay, and not a whole lot of buying/browsing either, which is probably for the best. Though I did score that Martin Sinker for a couple of dimes on eBay, so... But I prefer Reverb by a mile. A country mile, even. I have listed on both recently. Ebay has more hits and sold first each time. I like Reverb but they default to local search, which means that if you are outside of the US you don't get visibility like ebay. At least that is my theory. I agree that stuff on eBay is likely to sell faster with a wider audience. But man, you’ll pay for it. 10% selling fee is too much. Might not be bad on low dollar stuff, but if you’re selling a $2k compressor, that’s 200 bones up and gone. I’d rather wait a bit more and keep some of that in my pocket. Unless I’m desperate.
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Jul 24, 2019 4:24:38 GMT -6
I have listed on both recently. Ebay has more hits and sold first each time. I like Reverb but they default to local search, which means that if you are outside of the US you don't get visibility like ebay. At least that is my theory. I agree that stuff on eBay is likely to sell faster with a wider audience. But man, you’ll pay for it. 10% selling fee is too much. Might not be bad on low dollar stuff, but if you’re selling a $2k compressor, that’s 200 bones up and gone. I’d rather wait a bit more and keep some of that in my pocket. Unless I’m desperate. Yes that is true 3.5% is way better. Selling on Reverb from NZ is really slow stuff can take months to move.
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Post by swafford on Jul 24, 2019 6:37:19 GMT -6
I live Reverb. I've never had a problem with them, have found their support robust and their fee structure transparent and fair, especially when it comes to shippers - FedX and UPS - Reverb has the clout to go to bat for you when the shipper fvcks up.
My daughter crochets hats - she'll start one during first period (rising HS sophomore) and have it done and sold for $20 by the end of the day. Having been self employed most of my adult life, I encouraged her to sit down with me to look at her time and materials as I want her to understand a thing you make is more then the cost of the materials - your time is important and valuable. She was also interested in expanding online. So we looked at similar products on Etsy and found that Etsy is really just a slow walk to the bottom. There is no way any of the makers we looked at are making a fair wage, let alone a living wage, for the products they make.
What does that mean for Reverb? Don't know, but the buy out gives me pause.
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Post by svart on Jul 24, 2019 6:50:22 GMT -6
My gripe with Reverb is that it's typically 20-30% higher than the used market. Craigslist or Ebay or even some of the local shops are always cheaper for the same items in the same shape. It's like folks go on Reverb, see the other sales prices, and then use those as their benchmark because it confirmation biases their belief on their item being worth more.
Occasionally I'll find a gem on there but usually end up buying on ebay.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Jul 24, 2019 7:59:15 GMT -6
My gripe with Reverb is that it's typically 20-30% higher than the used market. Craigslist or Ebay or even some of the local shops are always cheaper for the same items in the same shape. It's like folks go on Reverb, see the other sales prices, and then use those as their benchmark because it confirmation biases their belief on their item being worth more. Occasionally I'll find a gem on there but usually end up buying on ebay. So true. I've been looking to pick up an AMS RMX-16 and those things have gone to absolutely insane prices compared to just a year ago. The new ones that come up seem to be priced on the "wow, here's one for a ridiculous price. Maybe I can get even more for mine." Other than that, it's the only place I list anything and the experience has been nothing but good. Fees are fair which is good to have considering how greedy eBay became.
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Post by levon on Jul 24, 2019 8:45:27 GMT -6
My wife does etsy. There payment system is terrible. They use there own etsy payment system for you to pay there fees. There expense report system is a nightmare as they charge as they go. Since they listed on the stock exchange there fees went up. could this be the death of reverb? . There etsy search engine algorithm changes regularly. Hopefully there is a big waiting period before they bring this stuff over to reverb. Etsy sellers left in droves when they made these changes. I bought some stuff on Etsy and always used Paypal... No problem whatsoever. I never use Reverb, everything is located in the US, useless if you're in Europe.
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Post by rowmat on Jul 24, 2019 10:35:36 GMT -6
My one and only Reverb transaction about two years ago was shite. After purchasing an item from someone in Hawaii, Reverb cancelled the transaction without notice causing me to incur about $80 in non refundable exchange rate transaction fees. Although the sale was cancelled within only five minutes of initially going through no amount of correspondence with Reverb got me any of the fees back which Reverb said were bank charges and nothing to do with them. The sale eventually did go through and I had to pay the transaction fees again. Reverb blamed the cancellation on an “Algorithm” which had detected what they said was “suspicious activity”. When I asked them whose algorithm it was and what was the suspicious activity it detected they declined to comment.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 24, 2019 16:03:18 GMT -6
Ouch! Chris
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Post by NoTomorrow on Jul 24, 2019 22:40:54 GMT -6
Never had a problem with Reverb.com - I've made hundreds of sales/purchases over the last 5 years without any issue.
I hope it is business as usual under the new ownership.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 25, 2019 21:01:41 GMT -6
Yeah reverb is great... I don't want it to change :_(
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Post by the other mark williams on Jul 28, 2019 12:35:42 GMT -6
Yeah reverb is great... I don't want it to change :_( Agreed. Hard to see this as a good thing. When the CEO in the article describes Reverb as “Etsy for musical instruments,” it made me think that either he doesn’t actually understand what Reverb is, or that I don’t actually understand what Etsy is. Very few people on Reverb are making custom items for sale and doing BTO options. I’m so tired of non-musical companies purchasing musical companies. But hey, maybe I’ve misunderstood Etsy, or the nature of the buyout. Certainly possible.
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Post by NoTomorrow on Jul 28, 2019 13:18:29 GMT -6
Up until last summer Etsy charged 3.5% for sales on their site....... which coincidentally is the percentage Reverb.com charges now.
Etsy then hiked the percentage on sellers to 5% AND decided to calculate based on sale price + shipping, whereas before they only calculated it based on the sale price.
I see a fee increase coming to Reverb soon. I hope not but it seems inevitable.
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