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Post by Vincent R. on Oct 27, 2019 18:29:23 GMT -6
I’d love to hear the difference between the United and the Heiserman FET. Especially since Heiserman is making their capsules. The zip tie in the video holding the transformer makes me cringe though. I believe we’ve had that discussion before about the zip ties. Lol.
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Post by cdkelly on Oct 27, 2019 19:12:11 GMT -6
I dig the United logo. It's always hard to make a classic looking logo with some originality. Affordable mic options these days seem so much better than when I first started getting into recording. appreciate that. we have a great graphics designer. I agree with you on affordable mics, and our mission statement with United is to try to push that envelope even further, which has been a very interesting challenge. Chad www.unitedstudiotech.com
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Post by cdkelly on Oct 27, 2019 19:30:01 GMT -6
I’d love to hear the difference between the United and the Heiserman FET. Especially since Heiserman is making their capsules. The zip tie in the video holding the transformer makes me cringe though. Hi, just to clarify, Heiserman doesn't make our capsule. Eric Heiserman designed our capsule for us and helped to train our manufacturing partners; but we manufacture it through our contract manufacturing partners. Just wanted to clarify that. It's a great capsule. I believe they are similar but not identical to the one he makes by hand. OK, so the Cinemag part we use in there does not have lamination through-holes for traditional insulated bolt/nut mounting as I would prefer; but I also didn't want to completely have to have the transformer re-engineered over the issue. You never know what a change like that can affect. The two practical options left to us were either zip ties or the recommended adhesive (E-600 light contact cement) as you sometimes see some of the more mass-manufacturers use. We chose the better and less messy of two options, and used pretty durable zip ties. I have actually seen mics take a fall and those adhesive bonds break loose, where as I've never seen a quality zip tie fail in the field. I've been using them in some parts of my hand-made mics for years. I know its a nit-picky matter; but happy to explain. Chad www.unitedstudiotech.com
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Post by audioscape on Oct 28, 2019 22:37:30 GMT -6
cdkelly - Man... I must say the UT FET47 looks AMAZING....! Hats off to you man. What's the MAP Price for this mic? ALso agreed, love the logo and the overall design of the website / manual / brochure. Fantastic stuff, keep it up and keep it USA! ;-)
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Post by cdkelly on Oct 30, 2019 13:32:14 GMT -6
cdkelly - Man... I must say the UT FET47 looks AMAZING....! Hats off to you man. What's the MAP Price for this mic? ALso agreed, love the logo and the overall design of the website / manual / brochure. Fantastic stuff, keep it up and keep it USA! ;-) thank you so much! I love what Audioscape are doing! the UT-FET47 will be $799 street price. Chad www.unitedstudiotech.com
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 7, 2020 6:51:17 GMT -6
Our new Behind the Scenes video #6 is premiering in a few minutes on YouTube. Watch as we take a look at the Signal Art Electronics SAE 48 Microphone.
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Post by ericn on Feb 7, 2020 22:47:02 GMT -6
I’d love to hear the difference between the United and the Heiserman FET. Especially since Heiserman is making their capsules. The zip tie in the video holding the transformer makes me cringe though. Hi, just to clarify, Heiserman doesn't make our capsule. Eric Heiserman designed our capsule for us and helped to train our manufacturing partners; but we manufacture it through our contract manufacturing partners. Just wanted to clarify that. It's a great capsule. I believe they are similar but not identical to the one he makes by hand. OK, so the Cinemag part we use in there does not have lamination through-holes for traditional insulated bolt/nut mounting as I would prefer; but I also didn't want to completely have to have the transformer re-engineered over the issue. You never know what a change like that can affect. The two practical options left to us were either zip ties or the recommended adhesive (E-600 light contact cement) as you sometimes see some of the more mass-manufacturers use. We chose the better and less messy of two options, and used pretty durable zip ties. I have actually seen mics take a fall and those adhesive bonds break loose, where as I've never seen a quality zip tie fail in the field. I've been using them in some parts of my hand-made mics for years. I know its a nit-picky matter; but happy to explain. Chad www.unitedstudiotech.comLooks really good Chad ! Even better at that price.
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Post by saltyjames on Feb 8, 2020 5:09:11 GMT -6
when compared with the vintage 47 from Capitol (Frank), it falls short. The “Frank” mic at capitol is a u48. Al Schmidt mentions this common error in his last book.
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Post by chessparov on Feb 8, 2020 13:39:42 GMT -6
Regarding Vincent's SAE 48 shootout...
Bravo Chad (microphone). Bravo Vincent on the singing/video as per usual.
All three microphones IMHO sounded terrific, in their own way. Chris P.S. Toss up between the FLEA and the SAE. I thought they both edged, the Blue.
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Post by drbill on Feb 8, 2020 13:45:28 GMT -6
The “Frank” mic at capitol is a u48. Al Schmidt mentions this common error in his last book. Yes. You are correct. Ive used it several times. As a matter of fact, MOST of their "47's" are actually 48's. I believe they do have one 47 though. The engineers there over the years obviously found fig-8 more desirable than omni.
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Post by saltyjames on Feb 9, 2020 6:38:54 GMT -6
The Beatles also.. Mostly 48's. I also recall Klause saying once that the 48 when in Cardiod the capsule has a lower power level making it respond differently than a 47.
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Post by chessparov on Feb 9, 2020 10:10:11 GMT -6
How about them 49-ers? Would you guys call the M49 "ribbon-ish? I'd love to try one of the M49 style, someday... Chris
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 9, 2020 10:29:54 GMT -6
I've used vintage U47 FET's on occasion. I actually don't like them very much for vocals. I'm sure they're wonderful on certain instruments. One thing I can say, Chad Kelly's UT mics sounded right, nothing that bugs you. It reminded me of the Neumann U47 FET and if I was looking for that sound I wouldn't bother with the originals unless I hit the lottery, Chad's would do perfectly well.
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Post by drbill on Feb 9, 2020 11:07:09 GMT -6
How about them 49-ers? Would you guys call the M49 "ribbon-ish? I'd love to try one of the M49 style, someday... Chris Chris - to answer your question, no, I would not call the 49 ribbon-ish. It's not bright, but it IS open and smooth. But not as vintage or rolled off sounding as a ribbon might be.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 9, 2020 11:20:48 GMT -6
How about them 49-ers? Would you guys call the M49 "ribbon-ish? I'd love to try one of the M49 style, someday... Chris Just wait for my next video.... FleA 47 vs FleA 49; crooning, opera, pop, guitar, trumpet.... working on it now. Its gonna be a long one. In general 49s are more mellow on top than a 47 and have a better dynamic range, which makes the low end seem a little smaller, but the low end reach is deeper. Between my FleA49 and MK-U67 I can record anything!
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Post by drbill on Feb 9, 2020 11:54:09 GMT -6
Chris - I'll add that the most "magic" that I've ever encountered in vintage original LDC tube mics were in 49's. Much more so than 47's. Not ALL of them are magic, but there seems to be a higher proportionality of magic in the 49's vs. other vintage mics. For whatever that's worth.....I'm not even sure it matters anymore because in all probability, none of us can afford them or find them. LOL BUT, if you can get to Capitol to use their M249, or Conway to record their pair of M49's - each of those 3 mics have the magic pixie dust. PS - The only vintage LDC that I've ever entertained the idea that I'd pay the ridiculously high prices for is Capitol's M249. but of course, they will never sell it. But if they did.... I'd be all over that. I've often thought about building up a pair, but at this point in the biz, I really can't justify it as I have a very nice mic collection already. That said, I still might, and if I do, they will have Neumann capsules, and FOR SURE AC701k tubes in them. I think a great AC701 is where that extra tiny bit of mojo that takes a mic from great to magical comes from. And if I go that far, I don't want great, I want magic. heh heh
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Post by teejay on Feb 9, 2020 12:10:37 GMT -6
Just wait for my next video.... FleA 47 vs FleA 49; crooning, opera, pop, guitar, trumpet.... working on it now. Its gonna be a long one. In general 49s are more mellow on top than a 47 and have a better dynamic range, which makes the low end seem a little smaller, but the low end reach is deeper. Between my FleA49 and MK-U67 I can record anything! If there was a way to give this more than one "like" I'd give it about 20. Can't wait for this one.
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Post by m03 on Feb 9, 2020 13:19:43 GMT -6
The Beatles also.. Mostly 48's. U47s converted to U48 operation, from what I remember reading on the topic.
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Post by chessparov on Feb 9, 2020 15:09:02 GMT -6
Thanks guys! Chris
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Post by msr74 on Dec 10, 2020 11:20:08 GMT -6
If you want a 47 of that quality in the $2000 price point the only way to go is either DIY or having a company like Barbaric or Signal Arts build it for you. The cost of the materials alone could hit $1,500 depending on the capsule, transformer, body kit, and tube you want. Do you want a case for it when it’s not in use? How much do you want it to look like a U47, etc. You also need to make sure you know what you want sonically. Different choices will yield different results. Stam’s SA47 is in your price range, but it is a darker version of the U47 sound. The boutique companies you mentioned want to turn a profit and have to charge more to make their money back. Some have even more invested as they designed and manufacture their own parts, like FleA. The Heiserman H47T is really more in this category at 3k than in the same category as AA or Warm. I can personally vouch for how good the FleA 47 sounds, as I’ve used one several times, but it’s not cheap. Does it sound exactly like a vintage U47... no. If it doesn’t have a real VF14 there will always be something different about it. Same as the AC701k and the M49. Even when looking at these really good clones it’s important to know sonically what you are looking for. Each has their own version of the ideal U47.
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Post by msr74 on Dec 10, 2020 11:23:19 GMT -6
If you want a 47 of that quality in the $2000 price point the only way to go is either DIY or having a company like Barbaric or Signal Arts build it for you. The cost of the materials alone could hit $1,500 depending on the capsule, transformer, body kit, and tube you want. Do you want a case for it when it’s not in use? How much do you want it to look like a U47, etc. You also need to make sure you know what you want sonically. Different choices will yield different results. Stam’s SA47 is in your price range, but it is a darker version of the U47 sound. The boutique companies you mentioned want to turn a profit and have to charge more to make their money back. Some have even more invested as they designed and manufacture their own parts, like FleA. The Heiserman H47T is really more in this category at 3k than in the same category as AA or Warm. I can personally vouch for how good the FleA 47 sounds, as I’ve used one several times, but it’s not cheap. Does it sound exactly like a vintage U47... no. If it doesn’t have a real VF14 there will always be something different about it. Same as the AC701k and the M49. Even when looking at these really good clones it’s important to know sonically what you are looking for. Each has their own version of the ideal U47. I can second Chad at Signal Art. He does impeccable work, is extremely attentive to the smallest details and is reasonably priced. He can tailor options based upon your needs and concerns. He’s also a super great guy. Knows his stuff and is really great to talk with.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 3, 2021 9:02:42 GMT -6
cdkelly - Man... I must say the UT FET47 looks AMAZING....! Hats off to you man. What's the MAP Price for this mic? ALso agreed, love the logo and the overall design of the website / manual / brochure. Fantastic stuff, keep it up and keep it USA! ;-) thank you so much! I love what Audioscape are doing! the UT-FET47 will be $799 street price. Chad www.unitedstudiotech.comHey Chad, I would love to hear some more clips of your UT-FET47. Any videos or the like you can point me to?
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Post by srb on Mar 3, 2021 9:36:47 GMT -6
thank you so much! I love what Audioscape are doing! the UT-FET47 will be $799 street price. Chad www.unitedstudiotech.comHey Chad, I would love to hear some more clips of your UT-FET47. Any videos or the like you can point me to? Yes, more video and audio sound clips for this mic, please. I looked into the Heiserman FET. Looks great, sounds great. It's one of the few mic flavors I've not covered. Wanted to communicate with them a bit before considering purchase further. Dallas Upton and Larry Villella are spot on with communication. I had multiple phone conversations with both. That means a lot to me. Tried two times with Heiserman via email, and I've gotten no response at all from them. Is that any way to do a fellow North Carolinian?
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Post by tkaitkai on Mar 5, 2021 16:04:28 GMT -6
srb Vincent R. and anyone else who's interested I'm a little reluctant to share because I kind of hate the way I sang this, but here ya go. FET47 against my M149. I was probably hitting the mic pre too hard and compressing too much, and I've since found a much better spot in my room + room treatment config. OK, enough excuses: M149: https%3A//soundcloud.com/tkaitkai/vocal1-m149UT FET47: https%3A//soundcloud.com/tkaitkai/vocal1-utfet47-2
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Post by brenta on Mar 5, 2021 17:57:31 GMT -6
srb Vincent R. and anyone else who's interested I'm a little reluctant to share because I kind of hate the way I sang this, but here ya go. FET47 against my M149. I was probably hitting the mic pre too hard and compressing too much, and I've since found a much better spot in my room + room treatment config. OK, enough excuses: M149: https%3A//soundcloud.com/tkaitkai/vocal1-m149UT FET47: https%3A//soundcloud.com/tkaitkai/vocal1-utfet47-2 I like the M149 better on your voice here. The UT47 sounds a little hard in comparison in this situation. Great voice, thanks for sharing.
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