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Post by dror520 on Jun 14, 2019 11:08:45 GMT -6
Hey guys, I was wondering what are your thoughts on this interface? www.presonus.com/products/Quantum-4848It looks great: 32 analog i/o via DB25 connectors. Ultra fast with really low latency. I was thinking of using this as my main interface as i don't need a built in monitor controller because I have the Kush Gain Train. I could use all the i/o for hardware inserts and analog passive summing. Thanks! |
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Post by porkyman on Jun 14, 2019 12:27:10 GMT -6
Just bought one. Comes with a free faderport and studio one pro. As long as it’s stable seems like a no brainer. I’ll update if I have any issues.
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Post by dror520 on Jun 16, 2019 18:25:27 GMT -6
Just bought one. Comes with a free faderport and studio one pro. As long as it’s stable seems like a no brainer. I’ll update if I have any issues. Would really appreciate your feedback on it! What interface were your using before? I don't really need the faderport or studio one. Do you still think it's a no brainer? Thank You! |
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Post by porkyman on Jun 16, 2019 19:57:00 GMT -6
I’ve got 2 setups. Avid hd and motu 16a. Avid is solid. the Motu isn’t stable on my pc and I hate the routing matrix. I can’t really tell a difference in conversion. I don’t think there’s a big enough difference in any modern converters to worry about.
Can still sell the faderport and S1. Makes it that much cheaper. I’m not sure if I’ll want to keep them either but I’m curious to try em.
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Post by guitfiddler on Jun 16, 2019 21:34:39 GMT -6
I’ve got 2 setups. Avid hd and motu 16a. Avid is solid. the Motu isn’t stable on my pc and I hate the routing matrix. I can’t really tell a difference in conversion. I don’t think there’s a big enough difference in any modern converters to worry about. Can still sell the faderport and S1. Makes it that much cheaper. I’m not sure if I’ll want to keep them either but I’m curious to try em. Interesting, seeing that I’m a Studio One Pro convert latest version, maybe this sounds better than the UA Apollo BF16? With lower latency? I’ve been thinking lately about going with a Midas M32 Digital Console for the studio. Something that integrates with my live setup, using the Midas M32 for studio and stage. I miss using a console. |
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Post by guitfiddler on Jun 16, 2019 21:43:36 GMT -6
I’ve got 2 setups. Avid hd and motu 16a. Avid is solid. the Motu isn’t stable on my pc and I hate the routing matrix. I can’t really tell a difference in conversion. I don’t think there’s a big enough difference in any modern converters to worry about. Can still sell the faderport and S1. Makes it that much cheaper. I’m not sure if I’ll want to keep them either but I’m curious to try em. Interesting, seeing that I’m a Studio One Pro convert latest version, maybe this sounds better than the UA Apollo BF16? With lower latency? I’ve been thinking lately about going with a Midas M32 Digital Console for the studio. Something that integrates with my live setup, using the Midas M32 for studio and stage. I miss using a console. Do you know what chips they use in the quantum? I’ve never been a big fan of Presonus conversion since 16.4.2 legacy board. It’s good enough for live, but terrible for recording. |
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Post by porkyman on Jun 17, 2019 13:33:50 GMT -6
No. Even if I did I wouldn’t know what to make of it. I don’t think it matters anymore. The burls have the same chips as the old digi 192 and ppl sell their kidneys for them. I’ve had/have the Avid’s, motu, Ross Martin, burls. The burls are the only ones that make a difference and that’s bc of the transformers not the chips. They all sound a little different of course but not better or worse. I don’t think I will even notice a difference when mixing hybrid.
Anyways. Should be here by Wednesday. Gonna take a minute to patch it up but should have an idea about it sometime next week. I’ll let you guys know.
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Post by guitfiddler on Jun 17, 2019 14:03:44 GMT -6
Yeah the analog design has a lot to do with the sound as well and of course the power supply but I’ve never really been happy with any converter that I’ve owned in the Past except for the apogee conversion
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Post by Guitar on Jun 17, 2019 16:54:18 GMT -6
I use a regular Quantum for some time now, I guess almost a year.
The conversion is perfectly clear, like porkyman said, it's not an issue in any way. I did a blind shootout on some website with an Apogee Ensemble and I picked the Quantum blind as the better sound. I "assumed" that it was going to be the Apogee but to my surprise my "better sound" came from the cheaper interface. It's really subtle stuff anyway. Like the difference between expensive camera lenses or something.
I don't like the "cheap" presonus boxes at all but this is in a different league, it's their premier interface. I also use and enjoy a DP88.
The only issue I have is the lack of direct monitoring on vocals. I don't like even 3-4 milliseconds of latency on a vocal, it throws me off and creates phase issues in the headphones.
My solution would be to direct monitor with my Midas mixer. I just sing with open back headphones, always have. No sound in the phones. I have gotten used to working that way for a long time, even before I had the Quantum.
It's probably the favorite interface I've ever owned.
The low latency thing is a huge enhancement since I do a lot of in the box stuff, instruments and virtual amps and stuff.
I love not having a mixer window. I do everything in Cubase. I never even have to touch the Quantum it just works. I turn it on, I turn it off. I love that.
In a lot of ways I would say it's almost the interface of the future.
If we could get to 1 millisecond latency or something that would be the real interface of the future, but this is close enough for now.
Fuck driver software and all that bloated crap. Just put it all in the DAW. The interface is just a simple I/O basically, almost becomes a patch bay. Plugins become hardware.
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Post by dror520 on Sept 28, 2019 15:05:19 GMT -6
No. Even if I did I wouldn’t know what to make of it. I don’t think it matters anymore. The burls have the same chips as the old digi 192 and ppl sell their kidneys for them. I’ve had/have the Avid’s, motu, Ross Martin, burls. The burls are the only ones that make a difference and that’s bc of the transformers not the chips. They all sound a little different of course but not better or worse. I don’t think I will even notice a difference when mixing hybrid. Anyways. Should be here by Wednesday. Gonna take a minute to patch it up but should have an idea about it sometime next week. I’ll let you guys know. Any updates? thanks! |
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Post by porkyman on Sept 28, 2019 16:31:21 GMT -6
No. Even if I did I wouldn’t know what to make of it. I don’t think it matters anymore. The burls have the same chips as the old digi 192 and ppl sell their kidneys for them. I’ve had/have the Avid’s, motu, Ross Martin, burls. The burls are the only ones that make a difference and that’s bc of the transformers not the chips. They all sound a little different of course but not better or worse. I don’t think I will even notice a difference when mixing hybrid. Anyways. Should be here by Wednesday. Gonna take a minute to patch it up but should have an idea about it sometime next week. I’ll let you guys know. Any updates? thanks! Sorry. Lovin it so far. No problems at all. Sounds great. I also switched to studio one. Lovin it even more. If you’re running hybrid I highly suggest looking in to pipeline in S1. It is so vastly superior to PT. I can’t imagine doing it any other way at this point. I’ve completely eliminated all aspects of Avid from my life and I couldn’t be happier. I think i even made a little money on the switch. |
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Post by svart on Sept 28, 2019 21:06:09 GMT -6
1500$ for the presonus? That's pretty good. I'm always thinking about what I'll move to eventually if my current rig dies and this looks pretty good, especially since I use 16x adat for my headphone sends..
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Post by dror520 on Jan 3, 2020 12:30:27 GMT -6
I'm still thinking of picking this interface  Any more thoughts? Thanks! |
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Post by Guitar on Jan 3, 2020 12:35:03 GMT -6
The only thing I don't like about Quantum 4848 is the lack of SPDIF I/O. To me that is critical since I monitor with a high end DAC.
Other than that I love everything about it. That's why I use a regular Quantum.
You could always daisy chain a couple of these together for a custom system, they will stack over thunderbolt.
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Post by gwlee7 on Jan 3, 2020 18:16:02 GMT -6
I am interested in the Quantum but I don’t have Thunderbolt on my PC. I already use Studio One and like the idea of tracking straight off the DAW. Currently have an Apollo Twin USB and the a Scarlett Octopre. That’s why I am also extremely interested in the MOTU 828es as an option.
Monkeyxx has been nice enough to let me bounce some ideas off him as well through PM.
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Post by saltyjames on Jan 4, 2020 22:20:15 GMT -6
I use the Quantum 4848.. I love it. Great conversion.
People that panic about or are snobby about conversion in 2020 are insane.
I have had a ton of expensive converters of all types.. They are all so close it's nuts.
Yeah I get it that burl and others certain types have a smoothing effect.. but I would rather just have the sounds straight up.
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Post by dror520 on Jan 5, 2020 10:37:35 GMT -6
I use the Quantum 4848.. I love it. Great conversion. People that panic about or are snobby about conversion in 2020 are insane. I have had a ton of expensive converters of all types.. They are all so close it's nuts. Yeah I get it that burl and others certain types have a smoothing effect.. but I would rather just have the sounds straight up. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! The specs for the 4848 have the maximum input and output at +18dBu where most interfaces are +24dBu. Do you find this a problem with connecting with analog gear? |
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Post by matt on Jan 5, 2020 10:51:51 GMT -6
I'm interested in this as well. Looking to leave Pro Tools as an every day mixing platform and move to Studio One, and the Quantum series seems to be a perfect match. My Symphony MK1 is having the well-known power supply issue and one of these days it is going to quit. I'd move to the MK2, but damn, it is sooo expensive and I don't appreciate how Apogee handles legacy hardware.
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Post by dror520 on Jan 7, 2020 14:54:24 GMT -6
I use the Quantum 4848.. I love it. Great conversion. People that panic about or are snobby about conversion in 2020 are insane. I have had a ton of expensive converters of all types.. They are all so close it's nuts. Yeah I get it that burl and others certain types have a smoothing effect.. but I would rather just have the sounds straight up. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! The specs for the 4848 have the maximum input and output at +18dBu where most interfaces are +24dBu. Do you find this a problem with connecting with analog gear? Any thoughts? |
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Jan 7, 2020 15:12:07 GMT -6
The new presonus quantum 2626 is coming out. It's half the price of there other quantum interfaces so I guess corners are cut somewhere. $599.00 for a thunderbolt interface like that is crazy though.
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Post by matt on Jan 7, 2020 15:18:06 GMT -6
The new presonus quantum 2626 is coming out. It's half the price of there other quantum interfaces More basic front panel compared to the original Quantum and Quantum 2: Quantum 2626 |
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Post by Guitar on Jan 8, 2020 7:21:21 GMT -6
The new presonus quantum 2626 is coming out. It's half the price of there other quantum interfaces More basic front panel compared to the original Quantum and Quantum 2: Quantum 2626The price is looking good on those, as well as the C type Thunderbolt 3 connector. I don't think they daisy chain with Quantum or Quantum 4848 though. I'm curious if they use the same conversion as the other quantums. Might be a replacement for my Clarett 4Pre in my secondary computer, we'll see I guess. |
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Post by matt on Jan 8, 2020 8:51:11 GMT -6
More basic front panel compared to the original Quantum and Quantum 2: Quantum 2626 I don't think they daisy chain with Quantum or Quantum 4848 though. Yes, this is interesting- on their product page, Presonus mentions connecting DP88s but not other Quantum devices: Quantum 2626 at Presonus
If true, that would be too bad. I like the idea of having straight-forward front panel mic inputs but I need a couple of 4848s to do summing and hardware inserts so for me it looks like I'd need an original Quantum or two to get mic inputs. Hopefully it's an oversight, but I doubt it. Isn't T-bolt 3 backward compatible? It is- in theory anyway. |
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Post by Guitar on Jan 8, 2020 8:55:24 GMT -6
I don't think they daisy chain with Quantum or Quantum 4848 though. Yes, this is interesting- on their product page, Presonus mentions connecting DP88s but not other Quantum devices: Quantum 2626 at Presonus
If true, that would be too bad. I like the idea of having straight-forward front panel mic inputs but I need a couple of 4848s to do summing and hardware inserts so for me it looks like I'd need an original Quantum or two to get mic inputs. Hopefully it's an oversight, but I doubt it. Isn't T-bolt 3 backward compatible? It is- in theory anyway. I'm not sure if 3 is compatible backwards to 2. Yes, you can use an adapter to go the other way though, to "step up" 2 to 3, this is common. They have mentioned writing "completely new drivers" for the 2626 so this makes me skeptical that they will work on the same driver with Quantum, Quantum 2, and Quantum 4848. This may be a factor for the lower price point. |
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Post by spradingaling on Jan 8, 2020 9:02:17 GMT -6
In the Sweetwater promo video, the Presonus rep says it's backwards compatible with TB2 and works with the other Quantum interfaces.
Starting around the 5:25 mark
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